Author Topic: You think Bush got pwned tonight? (Read 2699 times)

Martlet · « **Reply #75 on:** October 01, 2004, 02:19:59 PM »

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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
When did NK start it's program?

It doesnt really matter. You seem to still be believing that Iran is not capable of recieving fission material. The fact is they have. Seems a great deal better if we were the ones in control of it. But, our one track administration lacks the thinking ability to see past this or even see it coming..

Its not the same thing martlet.. But keep spinning as if it were. Perhaps now they will develop a uranium weapon. But how could we know since we have absolutly no control nor say about it. We cant even know how much they have.

And you keep saying that if we give them the basis for a nuke program, we'd control it. Just like North Korea? That worked out well, didn't it?

That's the bottom line. Kerry wants to give nuke programs to countries that would be a threat to us. Just like North Korea.

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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
see my quote please.. you fall under the fool portion..

I am arguing facts.. you are arguing fiction..

Fact: Kerry thinks it's better to give nations that may oppose us the basis for a nuclear program in the belief he can control it.

Just like North Korea. How did that turn out again?

You're still spinning a failed argument.

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #76 on:** October 01, 2004, 02:20:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Rude
Ahhh....Dude?

Answer please?

4??

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #77 on:** October 01, 2004, 02:22:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
And you keep saying that if we give them the basis for a nuke program, we'd control it. Just like North Korea? That worked out well, didn't it?

That's the bottom line. Kerry wants to give nuke programs to countries that would be a threat to us. Just like North Korea.

Wrong again.. kerry only illistrated his desire to attempt that the US have more control over what fission materials Iran recieves.. THEY ALREADY HAVE IT YOU SEE>..

Martlet · « **Reply #78 on:** October 01, 2004, 02:23:47 PM »

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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
Wrong again.. kerry only illistrated his desire to attempt that the US have more control over what fission materials Iran recieves.. THEY ALREADY HAVE IT YOU SEE>..

now you're making up facts to further your spin.

Keep digging!:aok

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #79 on:** October 01, 2004, 02:26:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
now you're making up facts to further your spin.

Keep digging!:aok

lol explain how that is different from what I have been saying? They (Iran) were gonna get it one way or another..

Martlet · « **Reply #80 on:** October 01, 2004, 02:27:32 PM »

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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
lol explain how that is different from what I have been saying? They (Iran) were gonna get it one way or another..

So if something bad is going to happen inevitably, we should just do it ourselves?

Is that your point?

Rude · « **Reply #81 on:** October 01, 2004, 02:28:03 PM »

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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
4??

I'm asking you if you are aware of what Kerry suggested as his plan for bilateral talks with NK and the result of the same bilateral talks with NK by the Clinton Admin.

Do you support Kerry's NK solution?

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #82 on:** October 01, 2004, 02:32:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Rude
I'm asking you if you are aware of what Kerry suggested as his plan for bilateral talks with NK and the result of the same bilateral talks with NK by the Clinton Admin.

Do you support Kerry's NK solution?

No idea. Only thing I can say is attempting to talk is better than thumbing our nose at them. But please, I'm all about being educated.. 8)

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #83 on:** October 01, 2004, 02:34:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
So if something bad is going to happen inevitably, we should just do it ourselves?

Is that your point?

No, my point with you is your foolish attempts at rediculous spin and made up futures..

Charon · « **Reply #84 on:** October 01, 2004, 02:39:48 PM »

It would have been nice to hear more details on both the bilateral and multilateral approaches. Something worth doing some personal research to see what's what and why.

Charon

Rude · « **Reply #85 on:** October 01, 2004, 02:40:41 PM »

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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
No idea. Only thing I can say is attempting to talk is better than thumbing our nose at them. But please, I'm all about being educated.. 8)

We trusted Kim and gave him the nuke fuel to run his power plants....he then proceeded to build the nukes Kerry blames Bush for last night. Maddeline Albright admitted two weeks ago that we were tricked.

Kerry feels we should offer the same deal to Iran....like I said, fool me once.

If only the world was as easy to figure out as some of you think:)

I'm certain Kerry will work it all out and well short of the 16 months Bush has been at it.

mars01 · « **Reply #86 on:** October 01, 2004, 02:41:28 PM »

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Be careful what you wish for......also, I'm surprised you cannot see what Bush is made of and even more surprised you fly in the 13th TAS....

LOL, I did not know political affiliation had anything to do with the who is allowed to join the TAS.

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...next time I'm online, check your six carefully

I guess the two nights out of the Tour I'll have to be careful.

The problem is I do see what Bush is made of. I wanted McCain not Bush I saw it back then. Everything I was worried about when he got elected came true. The world is not a safer place, it is more expensive, there are less jobs, the middle class is shrinking and American boys are dying in a war that is and was not any more connected to terrorism then any of the other countries in the region.

Even Bush's dad knew invading Iraq was a bad idea. We'll unfortunately GW didn't listen or learn from his father.

I wish we focused our energies on completing the mission in Afghanistan, capturing Osama Bin Laden and keeping the proliferation of nuclear materials in check. Protecting job loss in America, closing the loophole that gives tax breaks to corporations whom offshore work. I could go on but I have to actually get some work done.

mars01 · « **Reply #87 on:** October 01, 2004, 02:48:22 PM »

I have to agree I find it odd that Kerry wants unilateral dealings in Iraq, but is ok with Bilateral talks in North Korea.

I could possibly understand this if his intent with the bilateral talks is to foster a unilateral discussion. I agree with Charon, without more details from both sides this is all conjecture.

At least Kerry has Nuclear Proliferation as a hot spot. I think the 15 years it is going to take Bush to account for all the Nuke material in Russia is far too long. I would like to see how Kerry plans on doing it in 4 years. For god sakes Russia could be a dictatorship in the next two years the way it's going and then who knows what is going to happen to all the unaccounted for material.

Kerry showed a lot of intelligence and tact last night, something Bush doesn't show very well.

Martlet · « **Reply #88 on:** October 01, 2004, 02:51:40 PM »

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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
No, my point with you is your foolish attempts at rediculous spin and made up futures..

Made up futures? North Korea is a made up future? How did that turn out again? Well enough that we should give it another try?

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #89 on:** October 01, 2004, 02:56:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
Made up futures? North Korea is a made up future? How did that turn out again? Well enough that we should give it another try?

Ya, made up futures about Iran's future. You have no idea, same as the rest of the world, what would come from it.

Is NK the only country we have given nuclear materials to? I dont think so..

One bad apple does not dictate the rest.. Ya, foolish attempts at spin and made up futures.. keep making your fictionous points martlet...