Can we have buff spawns?

[Preon1]

I think everyone can agree that the game is leaning away from level bombing.  People are just not willing to put the time it takes into taking a formation up to altitude when your such a kill magnet and it's so difficult to hit your target.  There's also no variety of methods to spend your perks.  So...

What if we had an option, very much like the formation option, to spend 3-5 perks on a high altitude spawn?  The formation would spawn at 10k AGL directly over the runway spawn with initial conditions of 150 TAS and gear up.  Ofcourse, you would only have that option provided that the base you were launching from wasn't flashing.

That would get rid of the tedium of climbing those first 10k feet, and allow people to spend thier bomber perks.  We might even see more level bombing in the game.

[parker00]

Doesn't sound all that bad to me. Might as well get to spend those perks on something. One bad thing would be if you were flying along and all of sudden you smack into some bomber that just spawned.

[Morpheus]

Talk about gamey...

When I first started playing this game. I started off in bombers. Half of the enjoyment for me was the climb to whatever my target altitude was.

If you are having problems making it up there due to fighters tormenting you, take off at a base way behind the front line bases. So by the time you are in enemy territory you'll be high enough that most fighters wont want to bother going after you.

This idea has too much of a Counter Strike flavor to it.


Edit: ALSO if you find someone who wants to fly bombers with you the whole flight becomes that much more enjoyable. For me no matter what it is I am doing in the game, when I am winging up with another player the whole deal is much more fun. Also when you are flying bombers in formation, close formation you are a much stronger force deffencivly and offencivly.

[Preon1]

Originally posted by MoRphEuS
ALSO if you find someone who wants to fly bombers with you the whole flight becomes that much more enjoyable. For me no matter what it is I am doing in the game, when I am winging up with another player the whole deal is much more fun. Also when you are flying bombers in formation, close formation you are a much stronger force deffencivly and offencivly.

Agreed. But this isn't trying to make things more fun for the squadrons (and their fun won't change).  I'm trying to make things more fun for the person who wants to log on, fly a 30 minute mission and log off.  It's also there to encourage people to try bombers, score perks, and use them.

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think the perk cost should be 10 or more for the altitude spawn so people won't necessarily make the points back when they fly.

[SELECTOR]

i asked HT a couple of years ago about having spawn points directly above the base you were taking off from, at 10k above the base, i thought this would help with the bordom of extra long flights to get alt.. i know some sort of rules would need to apply, like for instance dedicated bomber bases or un flashing bases , or whatever..
anyway HT said it was somthing that was thought about but disregarded,, maybe nows the time for fresh thoughts..

[Jackal1]

Booooooooooooo Hisssssssssss from the crowd. Arcade Alert! Warning Will Robinson arcadish being approaching!

[SELECTOR]

hehe jackle , no more arcadish than V spawn point or camping

[acetnt367th]

Originally posted by MoRphEuS
Talk about gamey...


 

But this is a game

[MOIL]

Wow!
Another "it's a game" thread or "it should be like a sim" thread.

People are gonna have to make up thier minds on what kind of Game OR Sim they would ultimately like AH to be.

Still, to this day I play GPL, a racing sim that caters to the sim crowd and the love of old GP cars. In GPL there is no short cuts, damage is realistic, you don't get to put 5 superchargers on your car or start a race a lap ahead of anyone else. It is a simulation and unforgiving.
Now some people really like it and some don't, some like to be able to bounce of of trees at 80mph and keep racing, and for that I say go play Need for Speed or Mid town madness or the likes.

Seems the last month or so the BB has been full of posts on "this is gamey", "this is a sim" "It's a sim with a gamey flavor",  well seems like some people are going to have to make up their minds on what kind of game or sim they want AH to be.  Whenever you mix the two your going to get the CounterStrike mentality gameplay and the BBS filled with these types of posts. It will never end.

[RTSigma]

If you start that, then people are going to ask for other 'spawns' for their bomb laden fighter-bombers and fighters.

Planes take off from runways, not in midair.

I'm surprised PT boats can spawn without a carrier.

[streetstang]

Originally posted by acetnt367th
But this is a game

Yeah, this is a game. But its not Counter Strike or Quake 3.

If you want a game like those go play them and leave AH the way it is.

Quit screwing with what used to be a good thing and is slowly becoming more like an arcade than anything else.

[Darkish]

Originally posted by MOIL
Still, to this day I play GPL

Outstanding, me too - GPL will never leave my hard drive

[MOIL]

wOOt!

[Preon1]

Originally posted by MOIL
Seems the last month or so the BB has been full of posts on "this is gamey", "this is a sim" "It's a sim with a gamey flavor",  well seems like some people are going to have to make up their minds on what kind of game or sim they want AH to be.  Whenever you mix the two your going to get the CounterStrike mentality gameplay and the BBS filled with these types of posts. It will never end.

I'm all for making it more of a sim.  I'd like to see historical planesets over historical maps drawn to scale.  I'd like death to mean something.  I'd like to see missions spawn with a logical air campaign in mind.  I'd like to see chains of command, formation, and cohesive group tactics.  Sadly, TOD is at best over the horizon.

The fact is, for now, we play in the main arena.  A location that hardly screams 'sim', and has plenty of other gamey additions incorporated in the name of balance, immersion, and fun.  HT has said many times that in a struggle between fun and realism, fun will win out.  In this case, high altitude level bombing is not balanced or immersive, and the climbout is rarely fun.

This is just an idea to help with that.

[GreenCloud]

i would love hi alt spawns for buffs...

they had hi alt spawn on a Snapshot map awhiel back..


soem euro map..


i would vote yes

I haTE grabbing for an hour to have 20k under my buff


too long..