Rude Awakening

[StarOfAfrica2]

I'm sure most of you have gotten the chance to shoot me down by now.   I wish more of you could at least ACT like it takes an effort, but I guess thats a goal to work towards.  Hehe.  I've been working out in various planes and trying to feel my way back into things.  It's a slow process for me, and I realize its made even harder because of the relative "all around" skill level here vs the MA.  But then thats why I fly here.  I always felt better about getting a kill in the CT than the MA, and when I get back up to the level where I can start getting them again I'll be celebrating.  lol  

The one problem I seem to be having is with the new Flight Models.  At first I thought it was just me.  I expected to have a curve coming back in, but not this bad.  However, after I proved to myself that I literally sucked in every plane available in the CT, and sorted out from films where I had too heavy a hand, or kicked too much rudder, or hit the flaps when I shouldnt have, etc etc etc.........I realized there was more than just me.  Then Eagler really spanked me 1v1 in his P47 vs me in a 109G10.  I managed to draw it out for awhile, but real control of my ride didnt come until he had shot so much of my plane away it was a wonder it still flew.  During that fight I got to see just how bad the 109 is now at low speed, and how good the Jug has gotten.  Not to discount Eagler's skills, because he flew his ride much better than I did mine.  I just expected the 109 to have enough of an advantage to make up for my lack of skills (or at least my recall of them).  

So after all this rambling, I guess my question becomes, how many of the planes have this new FM?  Are all of them negatively affected, or are most of the changes positive?  Is this something that is limited to CT or is it (as I assume) something that affects the MA as well?  Ive seen only a few posts from people griping about the FM, so I cant be sure if I'm just jumping on a bandwagon or if its really a problem?  Oh, and thanks to all of you who have offered your advice and tips.  Every fight is a learning experience right now, and I'm enjoying the heck outta being back.  

SA2

[Grits]

The 109's have seemed better low speed (especially the G-10) in AH2, but the P47 particularly the D-11 was always good slow. Its no Spit V, but the D-11 is quite good slow.

[Gary26]

I have been flying the LW and FW a little bit this weel amd think that HTC needs too check into the tip stall on both. I had the G-10 at around 250mph and was makeing and easy turn and the wings started flopping around like a retard at the Chucky Cheese. We have had this problem before in the FinRus map and it got fixed. If it is not normal I hope it gets fixed. I atleast think HTC should check it out. I don't remember haveing this hard of aa time flying the LW or the FW.Thanks, That is all.

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
So after all this rambling, I guess my question becomes, how many of the planes have this new FM?  

Most of them.  The 109s and FWs, and even the 47, were the most noticeable to me.  The 202, Ki-61 and the P40 were much like their former selves.  But all have changed noticeably, all are more difficult to fly, especially at slow speeds - at least, that's my view.

OTOH, you DO get used to it after awhile.

And 1 v 1 against Eagler is not a good control.  Eagler kills most people, regardless of what he or they are flying.

- oldman

[Krusty]

*ACTUALLY*, I find the Ki61 and the c.205 MUCH easier to fly now. Both have had a major upgrade, so it feels to me, in regards to manuverability and speed/climb performance.

I had a c205 follow me in a p51B wellpast 20k, matching my speed AND my climb rate for well over 10 minutes. I was astounded. I think it's been overdone a tad.

Ki61 is at least twice as manuverable as before, it feels like (note: this is a subjective statement) and feels more stable to me.

[StarOfAfrica2]

Originally posted by Oldman731

And 1 v 1 against Eagler is not a good control.  Eagler kills most people, regardless of what he or they are flying.

- oldman

Which is one of the big reasons I choose to fly in the CT when I'm on, because while there might be standouts in the MA they generally only fly one or two rides, whereas the majority of CT regulars are GOOD in just about everything, even if they have a favorite.  Every time I go up I remember more and learn things I didnt know at the same time.

One other thing I noticed about the 109G10 though, I was catching ponies on the flat and level over a distance.  While the 109 SHOULD be a better accelerator in the sprint, the pony should eat it alive in the long race and this is not the case now.  There may be variables I cant see like fuel, but it has happened enough times that I find it worth commenting on.

[Krusty]

Going back to the original post....


A 109G WILL catch a pony, if the pony is accelerating level. If the pony can dive to get up speed, it will KEEP that speed like there is no tomorrow.

However, if he is slow to begin with and cannot dive away, he is caught.

A 109G with wep will catch up to one, simply because the pony has craptacular acceleration. Once up to speeds of 350-400+, it will stay there fairly easily. But I tell you this, in the time it TAKES the pony to get to those speeds, the 109G has caught up with it and it must turn and fight.

[Karnak]

Ki-61 seems much less manuverable to me.  I used to match Spit IXs just fine in it, now it isn't even close.

[Krusty]

I actually find it DOES keep up with spit9's and the light. I find if you keep it up to 175+ you will do great against anything. IF you have to turn slowly, 150-ish or less, you still have a chance, as it IS a decent turner. However, turning slow is much worse than turning mid-to-high-speeds.

I wonder if many people know about the Ki.

In AH1 it was hardly ever used. It was the novelty plane. People either flew n1k2 or a6m. Now I'm seeing more use ki. Not many more, but enough to get noticed.

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by Krusty
I wonder if many people know about the Ki.

In AH1 it was hardly ever used. It was the novelty plane. People either flew n1k2 or a6m. Now I'm seeing more use ki. Not many more, but enough to get noticed.

If you fly the CT regularly, you will necessarily become proficient in the Tony.

- oldman

[Grits]

Originally posted by Oldman731
If you fly the CT regularly, you will necessarily become proficient in the Tony.

- oldman

Or...you will learn to hate it and avoid it like a hooker with a sore on her lip like I do.

I cant explain why, but for some reason the Ki61 is the only plane in AH I REALLY[/b] dont like.

[RTR]

Tony is a very effective ride if flown right. Can't tell you how many times I have been surprised by this airplane.

Star, welcome to the CT and keep coming back. I learn something new every time I fly there.

Just watch out for OLDMAN, He's a handfull and will pop you like a baloon if you ain't 100% on your game and have eyes in the back of yer head!

Yes its true!

Behind that nicey nicey "congrats" demeanor lies a cold hearted killer.

hehe

Cheers,
RTR