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Offline Gixer

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« on: October 05, 2004, 05:25:29 PM »
Hahaha, seems Rumsfield is the true flip flopper for this week, given his last speech performance. Oh wait that's not what I meant I was misunderstood.  :rolleyes:

I would of thought those guys had practiced their lies and repeated it often enough not to make mistakes these days.

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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2004, 05:27:49 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2004, 06:30:57 PM »
Rumsfield said there was no "hard evidence" there was any connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda. He later said "ooops never mnid."

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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2004, 08:59:40 PM »
A-Q is in Syria, Phillipines, Afghanistan, Iran, Suadi arabia, Africa, FLorida, Boston, Egypt, Israel, Malaysia, Qatar, Algeria, Lebanon, India, Pakistan, to name a few.

Honestly.... seriously, do you believe there were/are not any A-Q in Iraq?
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2004, 09:42:57 PM »
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Originally posted by Steve
A-Q is in Syria, Phillipines, Afghanistan, Iran, Suadi arabia, Africa, FLorida, Boston, Egypt, Israel, Malaysia, Qatar, Algeria, Lebanon, India, Pakistan, to name a few.

Honestly.... seriously, do you believe there were/are not any A-Q in Iraq?


There has yet to be an ounce of proof that there was. If so Bush would be using it rather then look the fool as he is over the missing WMD"s.

Of course there's plenty of A-Q and other in Iraq now.



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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2004, 10:05:46 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2004, 02:18:59 AM »
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Originally posted by Gixer
Hahaha, seems Rumsfield is the true flip flopper for this week, given his last speech performance. Oh wait that's not what I meant I was misunderstood.  :rolleyes:


LOL i thought the same after i saw his speech.
He is now back on stage to help Bush  :rofl

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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2004, 08:32:57 AM »
Yup, one A-Q dude in Iraq, 1,000 lives lost, that sole A-Q dude still alive and kickin.

Serious misallocation of military resources. Doesn/t amount to a hill of beans, Bush's gonna win this one, anyway. get used to it.

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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2004, 11:30:44 AM »
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There has yet to be an ounce of proof that there was.


*Wrong, btw.*

I didn't ask about proof.  I asked if he really felt there weren't A-Q in Iraq.

They were in several dozen other places where they were.  Iraq was a sworn enemy of the U.S. and so is A-Q.  Put aside your hatred for the U.S. and use logic.  Do you really think there were no A-Q in Iraq?
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2004, 11:43:15 AM »
It's not about any Al Qaeda being in Iraq. It's about Saddam cooperating with Al Qaeda.

That has not been proven.

Al Qaeda is in America, should we invade ourselves?
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2004, 11:52:08 AM »
AQ and Hussein being on the same team is good enough reason to depose Hussein for me.
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2004, 12:34:33 PM »
"A fledgling relationship between Iraq and Al Queda floundered because of ideological differences."
 - British Intelligence Report

Not even 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' worked for the Baathists and Al Queda (secular and ultra-extremist religious, respectively).
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2004, 12:50:11 PM »
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Originally posted by Steve
A-Q is in Syria, Phillipines, Afghanistan, Iran, Suadi arabia, Africa, FLorida, Boston, Egypt, Israel, Malaysia, Qatar, Algeria, Lebanon, India, Pakistan, to name a few.

Honestly.... seriously, do you believe there were/are not any A-Q in Iraq?


Well given that:

a) Bin Laden had already said that Saddam was an apostate and a valid target for any devout jihadi,

b) Proselytizing the wahhabi creed in baa'thist iraq was a capital offence,

c) Saddam was probably the most likely ruler in the region to continue opposing the Islamicists for pragmatic as well as ideological reasons,

I seriously doubt that Saddam and Osama were on each other's Christmas card lists, notwithstanding your naive paraphrasing of the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" platitude and the fact that the only known AQ personnel in Iraq prior to the invasion were located in the kurdish zone which was a de-facto US protectorate anyway.

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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2004, 01:29:28 PM »
When will some of you learn that AQ is not the ONLY threat out there.

Are we supposed to write off a danger and do nothing "OOPS no Al Queda there....ignore that anthrax lets move on"

Tunnle visioned simple minded hatefull people.

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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2004, 01:31:50 PM »
The reasons the American public were sold on the Iraq war was Al Qaeda and WMDs.

Now, if we are going to attack countries based on their threat to US... Iraq was waaaayyyyyyy down at the bottom of that list.
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