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« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2000, 05:42:00 PM »
Doh!  

I know that the B-17G and B-26 get a gun range boost to help negate net lag effects.  I ASSUME the Ju 88 gets the same boost.  If it doesn't, it should!!!

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« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2000, 05:49:00 PM »
Folks, just because a history book says it happened doesn't mean it happened.
There are plenty of textbooks out there that claim Columbus ran into opposition from people who believed the Earth was flat.  That's a flat-out lie.
Similarly with these books on the second world war.  If somebody claims something occurred, it has to be DOCUMENTED.  If someone says "the JU88 had MG131S" fine -- show us the evidence: show us the procurement inforamtion, field installation notes, captured aircraft information, a photograph, something.  Then we can talk about changing it.
But to go out on the basis of some secondary source written by someone who doesn't tell you where he got that silly idea from is frankly bad history.  Go check out the pretty pictures at www.luftwafferesourcegroup.org,  and read their loadout descriptions.  Did it all happen that way?

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« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2000, 06:55:00 PM »
We seem ready to go to war over whether the thing had 2 pathetic 7.92s or 2 pathetic 13mm
If it was all 13mm it would be .3 the defence of the b26. 4 / 11 X 0.8
As it is it is probably 1/10th the defence of the b26.
Of course it is slower. Carries less bombs. Has poor fire arc protection.
Looks great.

These things were forced to bomb at night by Spit mk1s armed with only 303s.
Maybe if they had had a single 13mm in the nose they would have wiped the RAF out in Sept 1940..

Ive got a picture of one with a 75mm Pak in the nose though Funked.. Wana see it?

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« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2000, 06:56:00 PM »
Oh I got pics of that Pongo!!!  
Torpedoes too.  

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« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2000, 07:04:00 PM »
Hi

LOL Pongo how true. But some of the German bombers were pretty damn tuff when it came to .303 fire.  This BoB book I looked at at my college library told of a Do17 or Ju88 that was attacked by a large number of Spitfires which expended over 7,000 rounds without killing the bomber, which returend safely to France.  

thanks GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #35 on: October 18, 2000, 03:01:00 PM »
Just went to the local hobby shop and saw 3 enhanced nose armement shots of Ju88 a4s.
2 of them had mgffs
1 of them had an extra mg15.

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« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2000, 04:47:00 PM »
I'm scanning some stuff and will do a Ju 88A-4 armament thread extravaganza next week.