Some great Iraq/Afghan photos

[anonymous]

Originally posted by Ecke-109-
Oh...show the germans you worked with this or a similar pic


Then call it a great one, and i am shure you get a heartly reply too.
Respect is the magic word.
And the longer i stay here the more i loose it. Isnt it natural?

Ecke

ive never said a bad word about french and german soldier or operator. worked with both. you seem to feel this guys attitude unjustified. in light of oil for food "inconsistencies" id say your the one drowning in denial. youre right youve lost respect from many with your stupid points of view here.

[anonymous]

Originally posted by Ecke-109-
4- Members should post in a way that is respectful of other users and HTC. Flaming or abusing users is not tolerated.

5- Flamebaiting, trolling, or posting to incite or annoy is not allowed.

translation-"mommy i thought i was witty and hip and got put in my place! mommeee!"

[straffo]

Originally posted by anonymous
ill clear it up for you you seem sincere. the single bat. repsonsible for almost all the stupidity there they are a disgrace to us military. idiots. all through the ranks. two other mp battalion working at other facility have sterling record in treatment of pow. my call was to turn over guilty mps to prisoners for a day or two and look the other way. this is war and they treating it like a freakin game. those pow are intel source you dont do anything that could spoil that source. the intel guys tell you what to do with regards to them and thats what you do. someday they could spill something that saves lives. ive taken enemy into custody that was trying to kill me a few minutes earlier. taken guys into custody that would have turned and killed me if i gave em the chance. sure i would have liked to kick their knee in before they were handed over but i didnt. im not unique. thousands of guys face same decision under same stress and do professional thing. these idiots faced easier decision under less stress and treated it like they making fries at the burger king. to bring these idiots up when discussing professional warrior in a tough fight shows eicke either dont have a clue about military or hes out to insult looking for a fight. i know a couple of guys in that big picture thread and theyve got nothing to do with some handsomehunked reservists from a rotten apple bat. they are insult to reservists theres some damn fine people working in reserves with more experience more trigger time than a lot of the active duty guys. so i say they have nothing to do with me the idiot mps. eicke makes the connection. i say eicke is a little obnoxious punk that doesnt have a clue. the germans i worked with were great guys. top of the line operators worked with them closely for a long time they are certainly my peers. when i think of germans i think of them. i think theyd be insulted if i considered eicke to be in the same group as them be it for attitude, demeanor, and so on.

I'm sincere.

Btw I've a question about the reserve in the US army (because mostly I've never clearly understood the difference between Reserve,National guard and what I call regular Army).

My hypothesys are :
You enter in the reserve after your time in the regular army
Right ?
So you make your service in one unit and then after your time you go to another unit but a reserve one
I'm still right ?
The Nationnal guard is the equivalent of a draftee army ?

Clearing this will help me undertood how your army work (as you can guess the french army don't work this way )

[Saintaw]

Some pics starting on page 3 of that thread are downright tasteless. (No, I am not talking about the airplane pictures).

[anonymous]

Originally posted by straffo
I'm sincere.

Btw I've a question about the reserve in the US army (because mostly I've never clearly understood the difference between Reserve,National guard and what I call regular Army).

My hypothesys are :
You enter in the reserve after your time in the regular army
Right ?
So you make your service in one unit and then after your time you go to another unit but a reserve one
I'm still right ?
The Nationnal guard is the equivalent of a draftee army ?

Clearing this will help me undertood how your army work (as you can guess the french army don't work this way )

i cant speak from experience for the army i was USN United States Navy but i believe they almost identical. you can enter reserves from civilian life. you go to basic training and then become part of reserve unit. but many reservist enter reserve after many years of active duty as well. there are some pilot flying in reserve unit that have much more flight time than their active duty counterpart. youd need to ask a pilot for accurate details on that one but ive known a couple of pilots that went reserve because of a chance for flying time. many special operations units in us military have reserve units and the operators in these units are always experienced theyve spent their time in active duty special operations unit. as for the mps who screwed up at abu g and gave eicke and the other misguided a new thing to blame going crazy over i dont know for certain but would not be surprised if large number of them were "civilian to reserves" types. look at it this way they were to young to be coming into reserves after ten twelve fourteen or twenty years of active duty. they have nothing in common with even the least experienced guy youd find in a combat unit. different creatures entirely.

[anonymous]

Originally posted by Saintaw
Some pics starting on page 3 of that thread are downright tasteless. (No, I am not talking about the airplane pictures).

i agree there. i can see Marines taking those pictures for personal scrapbook when they were in the fight that produced the picture. to have a bunch of guys who never heard a shot fired in anger let alone fired one themselves acting tough over some blown up soldier which is what they are unless you know for certain they a terrorist is pretty sad. "look how tough we are our Marines killed those guys and weve got the pictures to prove it". but you know if some foreign newspaper showed a picture of Marines kia these guys would be "enraged" and super emotional about it.

[straffo]

Originally posted by anonymous
i cant speak from experience for the army i was USN United States Navy but i believe they almost identical. you can enter reserves from civilian life. you go to basic training and then become part of reserve unit. but many reservist enter reserve after many years of active duty as well. there are some pilot flying in reserve unit that have much more flight time than their active duty counterpart. youd need to ask a pilot for accurate details on that one but ive known a couple of pilots that went reserve because of a chance for flying time. many special operations units in us military have reserve units and the operators in these units are always experienced theyve spent their time in active duty special operations unit. as for the mps who screwed up at abu g and gave eicke and the other misguided a new thing to blame going crazy over i dont know for certain but would not be surprised if large number of them were "civilian to reserves" types. look at it this way they were to young to be coming into reserves after ten twelve fourteen or twenty years of active duty. they have nothing in common with even the least experienced guy youd find in a combat unit. different creatures entirely.

Ok I get it a system like that started recently in France but I'm not really sure how it work.

When I  made my military time it didn't worked this way.

To enter the reserve you had to make your time then enter the reserve and so give some time each year (amount of time depending of your speciallity/grade) ,you had to be volounteer (for some speciality/grade you had no choice except to be volounteer )

We had no "civilian to reserves" like you have, I guess their military value is pretty low.

[anonymous]

Originally posted by straffo
Ok I get it a system like that started recently in France but I'm not really sure how it work.

When I  made my military time it didn't worked this way.

To enter the reserve you had to make your time then enter the reserve and so give some time each year (amount of time depending of your speciallity/grade) ,you had to be volounteer (for some speciality/grade you had no choice except to be volounteer )

We had no "civilian to reserves" like you have, I guess their military value is pretty low.

reserves have a few weeks of active duty each year in us. military value depends on unit leadership and individual as well. i know reservist who have volunteered for active duty assignment contstantly for three years in a row or more. these guys are really active duty just counted among reserve. they have initiative and want to do things and are doing them. leadership matters most just in active duty theres more oversight i think. infantry bat in active duty unit leadership under daily scrutiny they always getting ready to do something. problem will be seen very fast and addressed. oversight not always there in reserve or someone not always eager to fix it. that mp battalion was textbook military disaster. some of the leadership and subordinate were "buddies" in civilian life and leadership did not set things straight when obvious they going to war. my problem is idiots like eicke saying "bush knew!" or "rumsfeld resign" or "us military no better than sadaam" give me a break. if they knew or ordered it to happen they certainly wouldnt stake the secret on a jerkoff reserve mp unit. common sense. if you that high up and order someone tortured and disappeared are you going to trust it to reservist or people more highly selected? and i dont buy for a second that eicke or any of the others gives a damn about the iraqis in the pictures. all they are to these whiners is a weapon to use in political battle against us. they dont give a damn about them as people. if they did care about humanity theyd be packing the streets in protest over sudan.

[Suave]

In all objective fairness Ecke's riposte of posting those pics is reasonably mild.

Imagine if he started a thread with a photo of a French soldier holding a "F*CK America Britain" sign. Some of you guys would've broken capillaries and had brain anyerisms, and skuzzy would've locked the thread right off.

It was poor judgement to put that photo up on this forum, and I'm suprised skuzzy didn't do anything.

[Saurdaukar]

Originally posted by Saintaw
Some pics starting on page 3 of that thread are downright tasteless. (No, I am not talking about the airplane pictures).

Of which you were warned in the first post of this thread.

As for the F*CK picture... if Skuzzy deems it inappropriate he can remove it easier than he can ask me to.

I wont apologize for putting the picture up any sooner than our players from France and Germany would apologize for not fighting alongside us in Iraq.

[MrCoffee]

I know the troops are doing a good job in Iraq. However its still hard to ignore the fact that there are no WMDs, no nuclear programs, no links to A-Q, and the fact that they themselves are fighting an enemy that the current administration created. It was a needless war. We know that now with hindsite. With an aggressive foreign policy of preemptive strike that isnt garnered on good facts and intel. Its not suprising that these are the results. The decision made by a man who knows nothing about war and has never even fought in a war.

[Gh0stFT]

Originally posted by Saurdaukar

I wont apologize for putting the picture up any sooner than our players from France and Germany would apologize for not fighting alongside us in Iraq.

this is now really funny Saurdaukar.
Who here from the forum have to apologize to you? wich player?
Me or Ecke or whos fault is it that France & Germany are not at war
right now.

I mean i dont care about that Pic really, i doubt its from Iraq at all
It could be a photo from you, made in your backyard
If this Message is really that important, why hide behind a mask?
c'mon if you have something to say, say it and dont hide.

...we players have to apologize to you...*g* i still laugh about that.


R
Gh0stFT

[straffo]

Originally posted by Saurdaukar
I wont apologize for putting the picture up any sooner than our players from France and Germany would apologize for not fighting alongside us in Iraq.

All of a sudden I've a clearer idea of "eternity"

[Saurdaukar]

Good!  So we agree that the picture is harmless.  

[anonymous]

Originally posted by Suave
In all objective fairness Ecke's riposte of posting those pics is reasonably mild.

Imagine if he started a thread with a photo of a French soldier holding a "F*CK America Britain" sign. Some of you guys would've broken capillaries and had brain anyerisms, and skuzzy would've locked the thread right off.

It was poor judgement to put that photo up on this forum, and I'm suprised skuzzy didn't do anything.

not in my case. if france went it alone in any place comparable to iraq and the us not only refused to go along but condemned them for acting id say such a sign would be expected and i as member us armed forces would be ashamed. politics and rhetoric aside there is good and bad. kicking bads butt should be default state of affairs. question should not be "why should we go stuff despot killing and starving his own people" it should be "why shouldnt we stuff this despot". just my opinion.