Author Topic: This could be the final blow for they Kerry election campaign (Read 1942 times)

Ripsnort · « **on:** October 11, 2004, 03:56:08 PM »

Forgive me if this is a repost, as over these past 5 days I have been slaying fish.

This could be the final blow for Kerry:

Up to 62 television stations owned or managed by the Sinclair Broadcasting Group - many of them in swing states - will show a documentary highly critical of Senator John Kerry's antiwar activities 30 years ago within the next two weeks, Sinclair officials said yesterday.

Called "Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal," the documentary features Vietnam veterans who say their Vietnamese captors used Mr. Kerry's 1971 Senate testimony, in which he recounted stories of American atrocities, prolonging their torture and betraying and demoralizing them. Similar claims were made by prisoners of war in a commercial that ran during the summer from an anti-Kerry veterans group, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/11/politics/campaign/11film.html?ei=5006&en=a672757b8863ace3&ex=1098158400&partner=ALTAVISTA1&pagewanted=print&position=

Sandman · « **Reply #1 on:** October 11, 2004, 04:01:41 PM »

I doubt it. The dems will ignore it and the gop just use it to work up a frenzy. That leaves the undecided voters and I believe there are enough stories already about Kerry's service in Viet Nam.

I expect that the people on the margins are waiting to determine which candidate will have the most affect on their lives.

This isn't topical... and neither is Bush's guard service.

GreenCloud · « **Reply #2 on:** October 11, 2004, 04:03:10 PM »

seen it..agree..Im still kinda shocked it hasnt showed in polling yet.

He called every vetran coming from Vietnam baby killers...

How could anyone with any morals follow this person.

Sandman · « **Reply #3 on:** October 11, 2004, 04:05:13 PM »

Oh let's not bring morality into it.

Neither candidate bears close scrutiny.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #4 on:** October 11, 2004, 04:06:53 PM »

A better one would be a recent report I saw that some group did a study that showed Kerrys math doesnt add up with all the things hes promising and will add over 1 trillion more to the deficit.
When questioned about this he stated that if that were to occure he would cut funding on things like his much touted National health care plan.

Mighty1 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 11, 2004, 04:16:15 PM »

Funny the Dems are going to the FCC to try and block the show but they have no problem with MM's show getting ready to be aired.

Sandman · « **Reply #6 on:** October 11, 2004, 04:23:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Mighty1
Funny the Dems are going to the FCC to try and block the show but they have no problem with MM's show getting ready to be aired.

Source?

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #7 on:** October 11, 2004, 04:25:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
I doubt it. The dems will ignore it and the gop just use it to work up a frenzy. That leaves the undecided voters and I believe there are enough stories already about Kerry's service in Viet Nam.

Hell, all this stuff is a waste of time. There ARE no undecided voters.

Mighty1 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 11, 2004, 04:26:26 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,135086,00.html

Ripsnort · « **Reply #9 on:** October 11, 2004, 04:27:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Hell, all this stuff is a waste of time. There ARE no undecided voters.

As close as the election was in 2000, and as close as multiple polls are showing this election, 100/200 swing voters might be enough!

Dumb and dumber....decisions decisions....

Nash · « **Reply #10 on:** October 11, 2004, 04:27:58 PM »

I think this Sinclair story is going to become a pretty huge deal.

Lots of outraged folks out there because of it.

This was the same buncha guys that banned Koppel's reading of the war dead episode on its stations because it was "political".

Now they demand that their local stations (25% of the TVs in the US) air an extended swift boat ad a few days before the election?

It's an outrageous and completely over the top abuse of the media in an election.

I think honestly that the media's role in a democracy is going to be becoming under extreme scrutiny. More than just the right's calling all mainstream (meaning anything but Fox) media biased to the left.

It's quite the opposite. And the mainstream media is fast becoming a joke in it's pandering to its corporate stewards. In going to outrageous lengths in trying to find something "balanced" and "fair" to say about things where no balance can possibly be found. To in effect, create balance in the most damning of stories.

Democracy in the US is fast becoming a sham. If the media isn't an example now, the lawsuits in Novemember sure will be.

The way I see it, a Bush victory would bring certain doom to the dying dream of authentic democracy whereas a Kerry victory would bring continued uncertainty.

Uhm... yeah that's what I think.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #11 on:** October 11, 2004, 04:28:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Mighty1
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,135086,00.html

...not that Sandy didn't trust you...

Ripsnort · « **Reply #12 on:** October 11, 2004, 04:29:54 PM »

Nash,
The liberal media turned on Dukakis in '88. When that happens,(as it appears its shaping up to be in this case) the chances of winning an election become snowballish in hell.

Toad · « **Reply #13 on:** October 11, 2004, 04:35:01 PM »

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"It's hard to take an offer seriously from a group that is hellbent on doing anything to help elect President Bush even if that means violating basic journalism standards," said Chad Clanton, a Kerry spokesman.

Paging Dan Rather.......... Paging Dan Rather..........

Nash · « **Reply #14 on:** October 11, 2004, 04:35:42 PM »

lol, "liberal" media... You're funny.... Kinda dumb, but funny.

And you're comparing apples to oranges. '88 has nothing to do with a Bush cronie/owner of a broadcasting company to force all his stations to broadcast an extended swiftboat ad days before an election.