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Offline Nash

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« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2004, 05:22:30 PM »
According to Fox News, following the 1st debate, Kerry told supporters:

"Didn't my nails and cuticles look great? What a good debate!" The Massachusetts Senator then allegedly added: "It's about the Supreme Court. Women should like me! I do manicures," and "I'm metrosexual--he's a cowboy."

This is so lame....

How many "WMD discovered in Iraq!" stories has everyone been subjected to?

It's constant with these guys.

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« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2004, 05:23:37 PM »
eghh.... ClearChannel...

It's fast becoming.... chilling.

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« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2004, 05:23:49 PM »
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...not that Sandy didn't trust you...;)


That link doesn't back his claim... not that you read it.

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« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2004, 05:24:42 PM »
Come on, Nash.  Is that the best you can do?

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« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2004, 05:29:57 PM »
Nash is dead on right and it is too obvious to be believed. I sure don't see a morally tenable position that would back this move by Sinclair.

Now if he were to put it in theaters, or even on pay-per-view I would say OKee Dokeee. He would then be on the same playing field as Moore.

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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2004, 05:30:00 PM »
How Martlet of you...

"Is that the best you've got?"

Is fabricating the words of a Presidential contender out of thin air, then reporting them as if they were really said, the best I've got?

What are ya lookin' for?

What if CBS reported that Bush was recently bragging about screwing a goat?

You'd have a totally different reaction to it.

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« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2004, 05:31:52 PM »
I read that when they posted it, went Huh? and read what happened the next day.  They did not intentionally try to decieve anyone, like Rather and CBS did.  You do not see that distinction?

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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2004, 05:36:09 PM »
Like I keep saying. they are ALL biased

source Center for Media and Public affairs

Press Release--September 9, 2004

 

Networks Praise Kerry, Fox News Buries Him

Study finds election news tilts both ways

WASHINGTON, DC- The broadcast TV networks and weekly news magazines favor John Kerry over George W. Bush, according to a new study released by the Center for Media and Public Affairs (CMPA). But the study also finds that Fox News Channel was far more negative towards Kerry than Bush.

These results come from the 2004 Election NewsWatch project, conducted by CMPA, an affiliate of George Mason University , and in cooperation with Media Tenor.

This is the sixth ElectionWatch report of Campaign 2004. This report covers the period of June 1 through September 2 on the ABC, CBS and NBC nightly newscasts, as well as Time and Newsweek. We also examine "Special Report with Brit Hume” on Fox News Channel from August 1 through September 2.
     

Major Findings:

•  Evaluations of John Kerry were positive by a two-to-one margin, while evaluations of George W. Bush were over 60 percent negative

•  Among non-partisan sources, Kerry's evaluations were almost three-to-one positive; Bush's were over two-to-one negative.

•  Among the networks, the gap between the candidates was largest on NBC; the coverage was most balanced on ABC.

•  Kerry's proportion of good press declined in August, but he still fared far better than Bush until the GOP convention.

•  Bush got better than Kerry only during the GOP convention, which also was the only time he received a majority of positive evaluations.

•  Based on CMPA's previous studies of primary and general election coverage, Kerry has gotten the best press on network news of any presidential nominee since we began tracking election news in 1988.

•  The coverage has focused more on the candidates' policies and personal characteristics than on the campaign horse race.  

The Fox News Difference
•  Fox News Channel was about as negative towards Bush as the broadcast networks, but Kerry's evaluations were negative by a five-to-one margin. •  There was little difference in the evaluations of party- and campaign-based partisan sources, but Bush fared over four times as well as Kerry among non-partisan sources.  

Examples

Ms. Ann Knuth (voter): NBC (7/30/04)

“I like what John Kerry's saying. I like the positive note that he is giving.”
 

NBC reporter David Gregory: NBC (7/30/04)

Today, Mr. Bush begins an unusually aggressive month of campaigning. With his approval rating below 50 percent and polls showing widespread concern about the direction of the country, aides admit the president cannot wait any longer to outline why he deserves another term.
 

Roy Hoffmann (RET.), Rear Admiral , U.S. Navy : Fox News (8/20/04)

[Kerry's war biography “Tour of Duty”]…was politically a diatribe, had many inaccuracies, gross exaggerations and some outright slanderous lies.
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Offline Nash

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« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2004, 05:37:05 PM »
You think those bozos at FOX actually believed that Kerry would say something like that?

They wouldn't fact check it because, hell, it's was just so plausible....?

"They didn't intentionally try to decieve anyone".... Whatever.

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« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2004, 05:38:48 PM »
Nash, would you have believed those quotes?

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« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2004, 05:40:00 PM »
And just to be clear.  Fox is biased, all of them are biased, but using pretty obvious fake documents, and not even having them verified with provnance, and then stonewalling for a week is not biased, it is far, far worse.

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« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2004, 05:40:09 PM »
Absolutely not. It was absurd.

Are you suggesting that this was a comedy peice innocently mislabeled as front page news?

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« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2004, 05:40:48 PM »
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Originally posted by Nash

There's a reason why the FCC exists. The airwaves aren't some free-for-all playground for the whims of partisans.


because its a documentory and not a political add. Odds are the FCC will do nothing to stop it.
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« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2004, 05:41:27 PM »
I am saying it was not meant to be displayed, posted or reported.  It was inhouse jokes, accidentaly posted, not a production that took weeks to do.

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« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2004, 05:48:55 PM »
mmmkay.... You obviously see it differently than me.

But you asked for an example, and I gave you one.

If you're going to try and tell me that FOX is anywhere near CBS in terms of journalistic integrity, I'm... well, we're going to disagree again.

I think CBS has in fact become a joke not for it's perceived bias towards the left, but in its evolving bias towards the right. It's happening right now with multiple sources of journalism which were once considered beyond reproach.

So-called "mainstream media" is crumbling under the weight of its corporate control.