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« Reply #90 on: October 12, 2004, 08:47:57 AM »
this is freeking hillarious...

media is media... be it TV radio or movies.   moore "forced" his distribbutors to release his phony documentary a month early to rental status and he "forced" the cable channels to run it early.

The liberals canadians here claim that 9/11 doesn't actually lie but people in the movie (and the narrator moore do actually lie on occassion)... moore mostly lets others lie for him or butchers what they say to make it sound different than it actually was..

He and his media cronies push this film like cheap smack. and hope that the lies will stick enough to sway the election... moore has stated this as his goal plenty of times.... in radio.... stern lies constantly on a daily basis about Bush... his show is one big anti Bush add.

Now.... a media owner who doesn't tow the liberal line is airing a "documentary" (one that the participants freely give their uncut opinions and statements of fact on) that is anti kerrie.... it shows who he really was and is not in the least untruthful.... yet...

the liberals here and in the media want it banned?   Who is the book burner here?

If it is old news then people will see it as such and not hold it against kerrie.... If the young kerrie was a hero for his acts then people will see it.

If is is all a lie then eventually someone will prove it .... like the cbs memo or f/911 eh?

it's all fun and games to the liberals until it is their ox being gored.

my opinion?   they are being hoisted on their own petard and it is funny as hell.

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« Reply #91 on: October 12, 2004, 08:50:53 AM »
Let's see he went to another state to go to a black church with 2 black Democrat ex-presidential candidates just to say "Hi".:rolleyes:

Source? I saw it on CNN.
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« Reply #92 on: October 12, 2004, 09:03:24 AM »
nash... calm down.. kerrie may even win the election, it's close.

It looks like what you are saying here tho is that the election is too important to run any media that is anti kerrie or puts him in a bad light.... that it is too important for kerrie to win to allow any media that  might take votes from him.

you would justify any media that is anti Bush and might take votes away from him as bbeing the end justifies the means.   Where is the outrage at moore and stern if this is not true?   I mean... the swifties haven't even aired yet... there is no proof that anything in the documentary is untruthful in the least...

f/911 and stern on the other hand are proven propoganda with stated goals and provable falseness.   yet there is no outrage from you.

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« Reply #93 on: October 12, 2004, 09:28:54 AM »
I dont know why, but reading this thread i had the vision of the meatgrinder scene in The Wall - the movie.

If any of you want to see how medias can control a society, just study Berlusconi's Italy.

Very interesting and educative.

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« Reply #94 on: October 12, 2004, 09:31:11 AM »
You all can't possibly think that free broadcast TV is the same or under the same set of regulations as pay-per-view or cable?

Sinclair is breaking the law unless he grants equal time in kind.

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« Reply #95 on: October 12, 2004, 09:53:58 AM »
equal time!?

It's a documentary about Kerry so what? We see crap about Bush all the time so what's the difference?

Because it may tell the truth and make Kerry look bad. Boo freaking Hoo!

Hell MM could have put F/911 on normal tv but he wants it to run uncut AND he wants a lot of money for it.

Sorry but it only seems fair that the right has a chance to show Kerry as a whole and not just the bits and pieces the Demos want you to see.
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« Reply #96 on: October 12, 2004, 09:55:28 AM »
No, MT, that's just YOUR opinion.

The FCC would have to rule on whether it breaks election law, IIRC.

I'm sure the Dems will be hitting the courts on this as fast as they did after the polls closed in Florida last time.

The basic problem for the Dems, as I see it, is that if you are showing actual interviews with POWS who are essentially testifying as to what happened to them in relation to Kerry's post war words and actions it really is a documentary, unlike F911.
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« Reply #97 on: October 12, 2004, 10:28:40 AM »
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Yer damned straight it's an outrage.


Not being two-faced are we?

A Canadian Ideologue telling US citizens how it should be....gotta love it.

Ya know....a guy like Sandman can say his piece and while I'll strongly disagree with him in most cases, I still respect his opinion because he's an American.....you however, are among the ranks of those spoken about by Kerry where he would check with you before making policy for the US....no wonder you're in love with the guy with the hair.

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« Reply #98 on: October 12, 2004, 10:32:02 AM »
From CNN Money:

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Calls to Sinclair were not immediately returned, but the broadcaster posted a statement on its Web site welcoming comments regarding, "the upcoming special news event featuring the topic of Americans held as prisoners of war in Vietnam."

"The program has not been videotaped and the exact format of this unscripted event has not been finalized," the company's statement said. "Characterizations regarding the content are premature and are based on ill-informed sources."

Sinclair also said in its statement that Sen. Kerry has been invited to participate in the broadcast, and urged people to contact his Washington, D.C., campaign headquarters to urge him to appear.



I think that's going to be another problem in getting the FCC to intervene. They're offering Kerry airtime and so far he's turned it down.

It's still no different than Soros though; rich guys using their money to spread their political views.
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« Reply #99 on: October 12, 2004, 11:44:39 AM »
the DNC has filed suit to stop Sinclair.

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« Reply #100 on: October 12, 2004, 12:26:08 PM »
The DNC never has been big on free speech, except for their own of course.
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« Reply #101 on: October 12, 2004, 12:32:16 PM »
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the DNC has filed suit to stop Sinclair.


Does this suprise anyone?
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« Reply #102 on: October 12, 2004, 01:07:55 PM »


you know, for BALANCE and all - LOL
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« Reply #103 on: October 12, 2004, 01:09:47 PM »
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Originally posted by midnight Target
You all can't possibly think that free broadcast TV is the same or under the same set of regulations as pay-per-view or cable?

Sinclair is breaking the law unless he grants equal time in kind.


F911 and "Stolen Honor" are the same issue.

FEC don't cover either right?  Neither is a political ad right?  Both are just artistic explorations of historical people and events right?  You know, "documentaries".  :cool:

Or are you now admitting that F911 was a paid political ad that should have been subject to all the election law covering political ads? :rolleyes:

Can every theater that showed F911 now be sued because they didn't give equal screen time to F-Hype911 or "Stolen Honor"?

Amazing how the stories are different when the shoe is on the other foot. :aok
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« Reply #104 on: October 12, 2004, 02:15:51 PM »
stern is on "free" radio.  

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