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vorticon · « **Reply #30 on:** October 11, 2004, 07:24:26 PM »

i feel like driving them around the same city block over and over, to give the impression of having lots, already.

Urchin · « **Reply #31 on:** October 11, 2004, 07:24:54 PM »

Is it me, or does the one photo of the T-34 seem to show a gigantic shot trap underneath the gun? Looks like the rounds would ricochet off the bottom of the rounded part and go right into the roof.

mechanic · « **Reply #32 on:** October 11, 2004, 07:36:19 PM »

wont the pnsr still blow holes in this? isnt this more of a match up for an M8?

i hope its fast or it will be used little.

cant wait to try it!

bat

icemaw · « **Reply #33 on:** October 11, 2004, 07:49:16 PM »

Are the photos pictured the same tank as the one nate built?
Cause they dont look the same to me. The front of the turret where the gun is. It is very different between photos and nates art.

Karnak · « **Reply #34 on:** October 11, 2004, 07:50:18 PM »

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Originally posted by mechanic
wont the pnsr still blow holes in this? isnt this more of a match up for an M8?

I think that the Panzer has the edge on this, by quite a lot if it's historical limitations are modeled.

Ironically though, I think the M8 is more likely to beat a Panzer IV H than a T-34/76 due to the T-34's thicker rear and turret armor.

icemaw,

The first photo is a T-34/76, but with a different turret design. The second photo is a T-34/85.

Slash27 · « **Reply #35 on:** October 11, 2004, 08:07:09 PM »

I like it, thanks Pyro.

Mitsu · « **Reply #36 on:** October 12, 2004, 02:10:35 AM »

Tank you NATEDOG!

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #37 on:** October 12, 2004, 02:26:37 AM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
Is it me, or does the one photo of the T-34 seem to show a gigantic shot trap underneath the gun? Looks like the rounds would ricochet off the bottom of the rounded part and go right into the roof.

The whole front of the T34 is a giant shot trap. It really defeats much of its sloped armor..

Look at those tow hook mounts, hit one of those and you will cut right through the armor.

Same goes for the base of the hull MG..

And of course with the huge drivers door and vision ports.

Also just like you said the shots will ricochet off the glacis and into the turret.

Also there is a vertical armor area at the turret ring thats also rather vulnerable...

As effective as it was the T34 was really a rathther crappy design. The suspension was awful, inside was crowded, the transmission was terrible, the two man turret layout and lack of a turret basket was horrible, the ammo stowage was even worse, on and on and on. I guess the design's capasbility was cut in half or more because of these blunders...

GScholz · « **Reply #38 on:** October 12, 2004, 05:18:29 AM »

Very nice, especially the wheels, but ... is it just me or does the turret look wrong?

TrueKill · « **Reply #39 on:** October 12, 2004, 06:14:00 AM »

yea the turret is the wrong shape

Pyro · « **Reply #40 on:** October 12, 2004, 09:23:16 AM »

The turret looks fine to me. You need to elaborate about what you think is wrong with it. If you're comparing it to the photos above, you're comparing different things. One of the photos is a T-34/85 and the other shows an earlier production turret.

mipoikel · « **Reply #41 on:** October 12, 2004, 09:45:21 AM »

These?

http://www.andreaslarka.net/ps231007/ps231007.html

main page

Zanth · « **Reply #42 on:** October 12, 2004, 10:09:29 AM »

Germans seem to have liked this tank well enough to steal a few by the above photos. Nice work on the tank, looks like photos in above message.

As for skins, some of you are still unaware that you can make and submit your own custom skins I guess?

Zanth · « **Reply #43 on:** October 12, 2004, 10:12:11 AM »

BTW could that periscope twist?

Karnak · « **Reply #44 on:** October 12, 2004, 10:17:49 AM »

GRUNHERZ,

Don't overestimate the effect of some of the clutter.

For example the tow hook mounts would sheer off before they'd cause the round to penetrate. The weakest point gives first.

Richocets would have lost most of their power and also would have deformed. The odds of getting through the turret armor after such a richochet is nil.

The turret ring does look quite vulnerable. I'd be interested to know how thick the armor on it is. Because it is a circle many of the rounds that strike it will be hitting at an angle other than 90°.

I was looking at the older tank models in AH last night. The detail on the T-34's wheels is astronomically better. So far as I can tell, that is the single biggest graphical change from AH1 on a unit at this point.

Zanth,

The top photo is a German used T-34/76 it seems, but the bottom photo is a Finnish used T-34/76 and the Finns took any equipment they could. Fighting a modern industrial superpower with a small rural nation required that if they were to survive.