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« on: October 13, 2004, 12:19:44 PM »
Bodies of babies found in Saddam's 'killing field'
By Joe Murphy

A mass grave containing the bodies of children, babies and their mothers has been unearthed in Iraq.


Shocked investigators reported finding "thighbones the size of matchsticks" at what they believe is the site of one of Saddam Hussein's atrocities. Among the findings-were the skeletons of unborn babies and toddlers clutching toys.

A baby had been shot in the back of its head and was found still being clutched by its mother, who had been shot in the face. The discovery was reported as Tony Blair came under mounting pressure to apologise to Parliament for the misleading intelligence claiming Saddam had weapons of mass destruction.
 
 
It will strengthen the Prime Minister's case that despite the intelligencefailures the war to topple the Iraqi dictator was justified by his record as a mass killer of his own people. Mr Blair is facing MPs for the first time since the Iraq Survey Group report last week admitted there were no illegal chemical and biological weapons in Iraq.

Liberal Democrat leader Charles

Kennedy demanded he make a full Commons statement on the findings but Mr Blair was hoping to escape by merely answering questions at his regular weekly appearance.

The mass grave was being excavated near Hatra, a village in northern Iraq with a large Kurdish population. US-led investigators have located nine trenches so far containing hundreds of bodies, believed to be Kurds killed during the repression of the Eighties. The bodies had been bulldozed into the ground.

Evidence from the graves will be used at the Iraqi Special Tribunal where Saddam will face trial for war crimes. "It is my personal opinion that this is a killing field," said Greg Kehoe, a US official. "Someone used this field on significant occasions over time to take people up there and execute them."

One trench contains only women and children while another contains only men. "The youngest foetus we have was 18 to 20 foetal weeks," said a US investigating anthropologist. "Tiny bones, femurs - thighbones the size of a matchstick."

Some 300,000 people are thought to have been killed during Saddam's regime. Iraq's human rights ministry has reportedly identified 40 possible mass graves across the country.

Meanwhile, Saddam underwent an operation to repair a hernia about 10 days ago and has made a full recovery, Iraqi sources said today.

He has been in US custody since 13 December and appeared in court in July for a preliminary hearing.

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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2004, 12:31:47 PM »
Sadaam should be out there digging.
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2004, 12:37:25 PM »
Oh but we must FIRST find WMD to justify this war!  Don't you know its about WMD and not the horrific man that once threatened to engulf the world in Oil Fire smoke?!?

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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2004, 12:54:23 PM »
Ripsnort, the Beemer driving eco-warrior. Now I've seen it all.

WMD was the casus belli. You'll never escape that, no matter how much you obfuscate or use capitalization in your inane postings.

Saddam has always been a monster - including the time we all best buds in the 80's.

BTW, our old buddies the Saudis and are new 'friends' the Pakistanis aren't exactly whiter than white in the humanitarian stakes. Humanitarian concern is another exercise in the use of smoke and mirrrors.
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2004, 12:54:51 PM »
It was the wrong war.


Hussein wasn't a threat to anyone but his own people.


If the U.S. is now in the business of protecting the third world from their own governments, we're going to be at this for a long long time.


Happily pay your ever increasing taxes to fund these endeavors and move on.



Flip. Anyone remember Bush talking about nation building during the campaign? He was against it. Flop.
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2004, 01:01:45 PM »
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It was the wrong war.


Hussein wasn't a threat to anyone but his own people.


If the U.S. is now in the business of protecting the third world from their own governments, we're going to be at this for a long long time.


Happily pay your ever increasing taxes to fund these endeavors and move on.



Flip. Anyone remember Bush talking about nation building during the campaign? He was against it. Flop.

yes lets start getting involved into african politics. there is lots of misery there. if not just to prove to the world that we are just not in it for the oil money.
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2004, 01:12:13 PM »
It is a sad ting knowing that all those people over there are dieing.  But it is not our problem,  we do not need to be the world police.
There are people all over the world that die becasue of the people controlling there lives,  but unless it is in out country, i dont care. hussein could put to death evey person over there and it would be a bad thing,  but it is not our fight.  This is the only reason i am voting for kerry this year,  

I thought clinton was bad for pushing our military into ever little problem around the world.  But bush has managed to do even more.   I want a potus that will keep his eye on the country, not what every one else is doing

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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2004, 01:19:58 PM »
So now our military should be used to save the world?  So much for conservatism.

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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2004, 01:25:22 PM »
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So now our military should be used to save the world?  So much for conservatism.


And ridding the world of safehavens for terrorists.  I pretty sure we are just using Iraq as a "lessons learned" until Syria and Iran get invaded.

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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2004, 01:26:20 PM »
Well, why wasn't the war started because of the tortured and executed people?
Instead it was about WMD and terrorism links... plus all the hype etc.
Thats what was done wrong.

IF you want to now excuse it with the humanitarian side, you can as well mop up half the africa... for the starters.

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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2004, 01:34:50 PM »
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And ridding the world of safehavens for terrorists.  I pretty sure we are just using Iraq as a "lessons learned" until Syria and Iran get invaded.


of course, irish men living in canada and the us sending money and arms to there ira friends dont count.

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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2004, 01:35:47 PM »
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And ridding the world of safehavens for terrorists.  I pretty sure we are just using Iraq as a "lessons learned" until Syria and Iran get invaded.


No connection between 9/11 and Iraq.

Face it, Bush was either dishonest or incompetent by insisting Iraq was a threat to the US.

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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2004, 01:38:12 PM »
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No connection between 9/11 and Iraq.

Face it, Bush was either dishonest or incompetent by insisting Iraq was a threat to the US.


Do we have to constantly dig this up and AGAIN provide facts? (Terrorists...not necessarily 9/11 terrorists)  Sheesh. You dig this time. I'm tired of presenting facts and data. You guys just ignore it anyway.
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2004, 01:45:00 PM »
if its a US policy to change regimes that mass kill, what happened in cambodia?.

The fact of the matter is, the war was based primarily on the WMD's, you cant change the reason we went to war because of something else.

I am not against the war in Iraq, because i feel it was a lose-lose situation.  If no WMD's are found, then its a failure in some people's eyes. If he has WMD's and uses them - then all these "the war is wrong" hippies would be screaming asking why we didnt do anything.
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2004, 01:45:34 PM »
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The mass grave was being excavated near Hatra, a village in northern Iraq with a large Kurdish population. US-led investigators have located nine trenches so far containing hundreds of bodies, believed to be Kurds killed during the repression of the Eighties.
Ahhh the eighties. I remember the eighties.

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