Originally posted by Elfie
Fish, you kinda missed the point. Nitpicking on each others gov'ts should stop. The things I listed would be rediculous to blame on people alive today. I listed those particular things just for that reason.
So.. let me put it this way... we should just shut up and let the USA gov. do whatever they want and become like the historical examples of dictatorships?
Thats not impossible.. just a different form of dictatorship, like it's always been.
Feudalism, nazism...
Theres already some things people are ignoring in the USA, like the prison torturing, guantanamo bay, unlisted prisoners..
The sort of things which should be horrifying to any modern democratic country.
Is that really the kind of message some of the americans wants to send out to the world? "hey we're bringing the freedom and democracy to you!" and meanwhile some people 'dissapears' and some are imprisoned for who knows how long without charges.. and even tortured.
(and it doesn't count whether its happening 'legally' based on US laws or even some international laws, since they cannot lie to the world - they will see the USA responsible of it, like it is.. thats just as bad)
What kind of message does that send to rest of the world, who might've seen the USA as something impressive and a country which stands for the freedom and just?
and especially to the ones in the 'liberated' country... whos previous leader had already made people to dissapear etc.
Remember it also scares people who knows the history.
Dictatorial goverments didn't born in a day or two, it could've taken years, while slowly becoming worse and worse.
So when is the USA gov. going to stop it?
Maybe they will in the future have an increased need to make people dissapear and more people to be imprisoned without charges?
What guarantees they doesn't?
They already did it and do it.
Why should rest of the world shut up about it?
If you want it to stop here, then the americans themselves should refrain from posting pro-war threads, anti-terrorist stuff etc., which would lead the discussion to ... you guess what.
It's not that we would hate americans, some of us are worried of the current way the USA goverment handles the situation.
