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« Reply #45 on: October 15, 2004, 04:00:46 PM »
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Hang on, I found one:



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Horse, Mr. Iron. Not pony, HORSE!

On his ranch! As an adult. At least.

And yeah when I was digging I saw pix of the saddle. WAY nice.

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« Reply #46 on: October 16, 2004, 01:49:02 PM »
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It is his ranch and I have seen pics of him on a horse.  Are you saying he wouldn't be allowed to ride on it?   As for cattle.... I would do the same... lotta work.. hire someone else to do it... Like growing nuts... most people that grow don't do the harvest.

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Ever find any of those pics?

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« Reply #47 on: October 16, 2004, 02:46:49 PM »
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How the hell do you know where I have and haven't been you pathetic imbecile?
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Hehe, Horn, you make a fine debater for the liberal cause. Just come right out swinging :rofl :rolleyes:

FWIW:
Bush calls himself a "Windsheild Cowboy". The kinds that patrols his ranch from his pick up truck, not horseback.

More power to him, horseback riding hurts unless you're doing it daily. ;)
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« Reply #48 on: October 16, 2004, 03:03:13 PM »
Horn might take offence to that remark, being that he's a Republican.

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« Reply #49 on: October 16, 2004, 03:11:03 PM »
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Hehe, Horn, you make a fine debater for the liberal cause. Just come right out swinging :rofl :rolleyes:

FWIW:
Bush calls himself a "Windsheild Cowboy". The kinds that patrols his ranch from his pick up truck, not horseback.

More power to him, horseback riding hurts unless you're doing it daily. ;)


You haven't figured it out yet have you Rip?

I'm a Republican that is disgusted with Bush--just not a right wing nut-job like yourself who idolizes all things Bush.

Besides, the idiot was making assumptions about where I'm from. He deserves what he gets. How is that "liberal" in any way? You love Bush--does that make you ghey? See, non sequiturs can work both ways.

I was just trying to illuminate for the great unwashed of GW's propensity for fantasy. You buy into it too--GW has no reason to "patrol" his ranch--for security, the secret service performs that task, further he owns no livestock worthy of being patrolled. Feel free to live your little fantasy tho.

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heh, Torque beat me to it.
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« Reply #50 on: October 16, 2004, 03:45:41 PM »
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Horn might take offence to that remark, being that he's a Republican.


I always thought that you're a "Republican" only if you contribute to the Republican party or vote Republican. Sounds to me like Horn is a Republican no longer.
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« Reply #51 on: October 16, 2004, 04:45:18 PM »
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« Reply #52 on: October 16, 2004, 04:53:41 PM »
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You haven't figured it out yet have you Rip?

I'm a Republican that is disgusted with Bush--just not a right wing nut-job like yourself who idolizes all things Bush.


heh, Torque beat me to it.


Horn , why are you so disgusted with Bush?

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« Reply #53 on: October 16, 2004, 08:37:38 PM »
Gee, Horn, thanks for informing me of your past in a awy that I can understand. :rolleyes:

I don't know you, I have never met you and I made an assumption based on what I read. Take it for what it is...calling me a pathetic imbicile is just low. I at least tried to keep the personal insults out of my post. What was the deal with you? You can't just politely inform me that you were raised in Austin, oh no. Being a college student, I guess I just don't understand anything if there isn't some stinging remark in it. :o

Just FYI, I'm disgusted with both canidates. I've never voted before and I'm considering not doing it at all. I have found no good reasons for either of these half-wits to run this country. Neither of them are my "poster children," and I don't live in a fantasy world. I retract my statement and apologize, as stated befoer I had no knowledge of your past and I was wrong to make assumptions.

Funny...all of the posts I have ever made here have been ignored and I get to have one of my worst ones brought back and shoved in my face. I feel like a politician. :(

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« Reply #54 on: October 17, 2004, 10:34:18 AM »
Ok horn... I would rather ride in Bush's pickup looking over the ranch than attend the art gallery opening for the feces sculpter with kerrie... happy?

Not about republican or democrat it is about moderate vs  liberal socialist to me.

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« Reply #55 on: October 17, 2004, 10:56:39 AM »
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I think so.

These are my individual, purely selfish concerns:

Medmal tort reform--including federally-mandated award caps
Strong support for Israel
End, or significant decrease to estate taxes
No significant military spendings cuts
No tax hikes for the 'rich' (unless you feel good about make a legion of tax-attorneys rich while giving little or no added aid to those who need it)
less of a focus on socialized medicine and more concentration on reforming insurance policies
Streamlined, verses bulked-up social programs


Let me see if I get this..  

- Medical Lawsuit reform
- support for Isreal
- Cut taxes for the rich
- Keep military spending at a high level
- Cut taxes for the rich
- Drop medicare type crap, let the poor die, it is a waste of my      money... I could buy another house with that money.
- Drop any kind of welfare crap, see above.

Well... I'd have to say you'll be voting for Bush on Nov 2nd.  He'll definately get behind the last 5, don't know about the first two.  I assume after a few months and a few more invasions all the poor people who'd be sucking up your tax money will have been drafted to stand guard in other "dangerous" Islamic countries... I hear Malaysia is quite the terrorists paradise this time of year.

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« Reply #56 on: October 17, 2004, 11:01:09 AM »
urchin... I don't think you got it straight at all.

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« Reply #57 on: October 17, 2004, 11:42:10 AM »
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Let me see if I get this..  

- Medical Lawsuit reform
- support for Isreal
- Cut taxes for the rich
- Keep military spending at a high level
- Cut taxes for the rich
- Drop medicare type crap, let the poor die, it is a waste of my      money... I could buy another house with that money.
- Drop any kind of welfare crap, see above.

Well... I'd have to say you'll be voting for Bush on Nov 2nd.  He'll definately get behind the last 5, don't know about the first two.  I assume after a few months and a few more invasions all the poor people who'd be sucking up your tax money will have been drafted to stand guard in other "dangerous" Islamic countries... I hear Malaysia is quite the terrorists paradise this time of year.


     You see, this is exactly the sort of pre-programmed, wounded, snap reflex defense mentality that makes it difficult to carry on a conversation.
     Here goes nothing:

     I do not support the end to welfare or medicare, nor do I consider them crap by any stretch of the imagination. I believe that many people deserve both in order to get them by and to hopefully help them along to greener pastures. The single working parents. The sick. The elderly. The disabled. All deserve our help and support.

    That being said, I do not think that such programs should exist to perpetuate a 'loafer class' in this nation--a class of that believes in universal entitlement simply by virtue of their ability to subsist on others' hard work. If my 'other' house money is going to a guy who can take care of himself, then yes... You're damn right I'd rather keep it. I think I should have at least a dozen exotic sports cars in a gold-plated garage before I should have to support an able-bodied degenerate. If you want to toss money at the lazy, go ahead. Keep your hands and your ideology off of mine.

    I support Israel. Always. I do not care for Sharon, but I do care for the millions of other admirable men and women that have made Israel a great nation in record time. They are our brothers and sisters in ideology, and although they've made mistakes(much like the fathers of this nation made with slavery and the genocide of the native Americans) they've earned the right to prosper. Despite their technical and tactical supremecy, they are on the defensive in their region, and I will gladly support them even if our nation turns away.

     I can't believe you even bought into the whole draft re-instatement propeganda Kerry's been tossing around in the last couple days. Do people forget that it was Kerry who spoke of creating a required government service program in the States? Answer me this: If Kerry told you that drinking your own pee was good for your liver, would you stock up on Dixie Cups and bendy straws?

    Tax cuts for the rich? Well, How much should the 'rich' be paying? How much punishment is punishment enough for those with the aptitude and elbow grease who make it into this highly diverse, highly misinterpreted group? Personally, I think that a flat tax should exist for anyone beyond a certain income level--say, 100k/year. Otherwise, and I've said this before, you'll only be taxing those on the fringes of the upper bracket. The truly wealthy, the men and women raking in several million a year and more, will always have their tax attorneys to go to. So, basically, your robin hoodesque, bleeding heart tax policies will only serve to funnel money into the pockets of a couple thousand already wealthy lawyers... But who gives a damn, right? The rich only exist to provide people like you with a release valve for your own deep-seated guilt and sense of inferiority, so vote away.

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« Reply #58 on: October 17, 2004, 11:48:46 AM »
Here is a true first for me.
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During the 2nd debate, we saw a man judo-chopping every point he tried to make, all but leaping across the stage to strangle Charlie Gibson,
lol nash.

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« Reply #59 on: October 17, 2004, 11:58:30 AM »
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Drop medicare type crap, let the poor die, it is a waste of my money... I could buy another house with that money.


Why should I pay for someone else to go to the doctor?  If they grew up in the same country, had the same opportunities as me, WHY... WHY should I be held accountable for their lack  of success?  





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Cut taxes for the rich


You seem intelligent.... do you mean this?  You have to cut taxes for the rich any time you cut taxes.  The bottom 50% of wage earners in the U.S. are paying LESS than 10% of all taxes.  How can you cut their taxes significantly further?
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