Author Topic: Bush not loved? (Read 1161 times)

capt. apathy · « **Reply #30 on:** October 16, 2004, 10:21:38 AM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Where the U.S. troops stand in the upcoming election

Maybe the Dems could make yet another delay in over-seas mail like in 2000?

very meaningful poll. not.

it's a poll where 4000 people out of the 30,000 who were asked responded. they were polled by replying to e-mails that were sent to them (so their answers could be tracked back to them). and (as stated in the article) those who received the e-mails were older, higher ranking, career men and not a legitimate cross section of the military as a whole.

you know we could take a poll at work. just ask the guys who they plan to vote for as you hand out job assignments.
just let the guys know who you want them to vote for and let them wonder what sort of job they will be assigned to if they speak up for the other side.

I imagine the results would be much like this poll, with the vast majority declining to answer, and the majority of those who do telling me what they think I want to hear.

please, if you're going to do the 'cut and paste' thing at least find an article that is actually saying something.

AKIron · « **Reply #31 on:** October 16, 2004, 11:24:12 AM »

I find it a big plus for Bush that some of those countries want him replaced. I'm voting early on the 18th and it won't be for Kerry.

Creamo · « **Reply #32 on:** October 16, 2004, 11:47:36 AM »

I'm voting for sure.

I'm going to wear a BUSH button and tell some lucky hairy arm pit liberal chick that waited so long for her moment to cast a vote and change America, that it has just been nullified by my vote. Done. Over. Awesome. It will make it all worth while. Plus, I’m in a swing State, and if Eagler wins the whole bet, we won’t have to hear all this political BS till Jan 1, just endless Eagler LOL's, which in comparison is cool by me.( And I’ll be on vacation till the 6th.) Well, rpmhat and nash didn’t have the balls Hillary has to take up Eagler, but it would be funny anyway.

The best thing is, if Kerry wins, we will all have health care, France and the world will rejoin us for who knows what, gas prices will drop $1 a gallon, the war will be over in Iraq, lotsa other great stuff Bush has kept us from. Oh, and my union, after sending me all this Pro-Kerry mail, says I get even more money! I can't lose.

Vudak · « **Reply #33 on:** October 16, 2004, 12:32:32 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
"""Unfortunately, I'm sorry but we need some Allies right about now """"

you mean like france? france was never the allie of the US , and don't say 1776, france only helped the colonies because we were fighting england. france wanted payback for losing canada.

WW2, france grudgingly accepted help from US, (like they had a choice) and degaull insisted on going into paris first so it would look like he "liberated" the city.

I did mean France, actually. And Germany, and the British (not the British government, the British populace), and anyone else in Europe who now dislikes American policy so much, or, for that matter, the rest of the world. (Excluding the middle east, of course... I doubt we'll ever win their hearts).

I think Iraq is a pretty clear indication that we need allies. Maybe not to win the "war" but definately to help us keep the peace. Let's face it, America doesn't have a long history of keeping martial law and dealing with violently unruly populations... (I know there have been some examples in our lifetimes, and certainly many before that, but that's certainly not the norm)... My point is, we're out of our league.

I'd like to have a president who, though maintaining his stance that we make our own security decisions, would actually listen to the opinions of others. Just because you're born across the ocean doesn't mean you don't have a good idea. A few opinions just might be worth listening to.

I can't say that Kerry will do that. I can say I believe Bush will not.

Lizking · « **Reply #34 on:** October 16, 2004, 12:37:34 PM »

The Annenburg poll showed the same result, re: military for Bush.

AKIron · « **Reply #35 on:** October 16, 2004, 12:47:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Lizking
The Annenburg poll showed the same result, re: military for Bush.

Anyone believing that US military personnel would ever be largely liberal is living in la-la land and should lay off the lsd for a few days.

lazs2 · « **Reply #36 on:** October 16, 2004, 01:04:27 PM »

creamo has the best attitude about the whole thing I have seen so far.

lazs

Eagler · « **Reply #37 on:** October 16, 2004, 04:54:39 PM »

LANDSLIDE!!!

amazing when you think about it...
listen to the news and you'd think Bush is the anti-Christ yet..
even with a stock market dipping below 10k, oil at $55 a barrel and gas at over $2 a gallon...

Bush is pulling away from skerry!!!
Time (865 LV w/leaners) 10/14 - 10/15 48% 47% 3% Bush +1

Newsweek (LV) 10/14 - 10/15 50% 44% 1% Bush +6

ABC/Wash Post (1203 LV)* 10/13 - 10/15 50% 47% 1% Bush +3

Zogby (1211 LV) 10/13 - 10/15 48% 44% 1% Bush +4

TIPP (786 LV) 10/12 - 10/15 48% 45% 2% Bush +3

... and you ain't seen nothing yet

LOL LOL LOL

lazs2 · « **Reply #38 on:** October 17, 2004, 10:50:12 AM »

It looks like Bush is holding a steady 2% lead in the polls and is florida away from a sure victory in the electorial..

weird but... Florida will probly be a huge factor again if kerrie manages to hang onto all his weak states and then take all the undecided ones besides Florida... if NJ or one Pa or something goes Bush then even Fla. won't be enough for kerrie. kerrie is in much worse shape than gore was in 2000.

I hope that the election is more than 27 electorial votes for Bush tho so that the dems don't try to overturn the election with recounts... I don't think they will do it for more than one state but... who knows... they have proven in the past they have no shame... they tried to rig the election by keeping nader off the ballot so they might try anything.

lazs

parker00 · « **Reply #39 on:** October 17, 2004, 12:49:25 PM »

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How about the fact that still to this very day we do not have a national memorial to those who died in WWI. They have one in FRANCE though.

Just so you know, there is at least one in the states. It's called the Liberty Memorial here in Kansas City.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #40 on:** October 17, 2004, 02:19:46 PM »

there are actually quite a few of them around the country.

Otto · « **Reply #41 on:** October 17, 2004, 02:31:08 PM »

Stop Bad Mouthing Europe..!

Don't forget: "They're there when they need you."

Staga · « **Reply #42 on:** October 17, 2004, 02:46:37 PM »

When did US joined to WW? Was it after Germany attacked to Poland or after GB and France declared a war against Germany?

Otto ?

john9001 · « **Reply #43 on:** October 17, 2004, 03:35:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Staga
When did US joined to WW? Was it after Germany attacked to Poland or after GB and France declared a war against Germany?

Otto ?

dec 1941, japan attacked neutral USA, USA declare war on japan, germany by treaty with japan declare war on USA.

Otto · « **Reply #44 on:** October 17, 2004, 04:05:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Staga
When did US joined to WW? Was it after Germany attacked to Poland or after GB and France declared a war against Germany?

Otto ?

"When" is not the issue.. It's "How" that should concern you. The Nazi's were no clear threat to us at the time but we sent the largest army we ever had to Europe to defeat them for the good of the world.

In addition, we never ask you (Europe) why you didn't solve the problem before it got out of hand the way we're trying to do in the Middle East.

We sent millions of men to fight and die for your mistakes and then gave you the Marshall Plan when it was over.

Oh, and then there was the Cold War when we stood guard over you for 50 years....

And then, when the United States would like you to make the smallest contribution in Iraq your nowhere to be found.

If you understand what I just said you'll understand much...