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Offline MRPLUTO

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« on: October 15, 2004, 10:34:15 PM »
I hope that HTC will concentrate on bombers, although I've read they require much more work to develop than fighters.  Nevertheless:

Priority should be given to:

Heinkel He-111H-3
Petlyakov Pe-2
S.M. 79
Mitsubishi G4M2 Betty

I know we don't really need another American bomber, but it would be nice to have something besides the Ar-234 to spend buff perks on.  So, I vote for the

B-29 Superfortress (nukes not included)

Other bombers:

Ju-87D-5 (the Stuka with 2 x 37mm)
Bristol Blenheim IV
Vickers Wellington
Ju-52
North American B-25C Mitchell

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We need more early war fighters, not more uberplanes.

I'd give priority to:

P-39 N & Q
Nakajima Ki-43 Hayabusa / Oscar
Lockheed P-38 E or F
Mig-3, Yak-1, or Yak 3

Other fighters:

Me-410
Bristol Beaufighter
F2A Brewster Buffalo
Nakajima Ki-44 Shoki / Tojo
Kawasaki Ki-45 Toryu / Nick
Dewoitine D. 520
Polikarpov I-16 Rata

The Heinkel He-219 and North American P-61 Black Widow are very popular choices, but they are both night fighters, and until Aces High has night combat events with friendly icons only (that is, no enemy icons), I'd wait on them.

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As for GVs, I'd suggest the Sherman, the Churchill, and some kind of self-propelled artillery, 105mm size.


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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2004, 11:10:58 PM »
Looks good to me.  :D







except the b-29 :)

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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2004, 03:53:42 AM »
Finally a good list of planes.

But Brewster and Blenheim first.:D
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2004, 06:33:03 AM »
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I hope that HTC will concentrate on bombers, although I've read they require much more work to develop than fighters.


Great List!  WE definately need bombers for sure and I agree.  Even the Ju52 IMO is needed.  Totally ruins any immersion to look at a formation of 109's escorting a C47.

Here is a partial list covering just early war fighters I came up with to complement your bombers.

For the Early fighters:

The VVS is vastly underepresented.

I-16
Lagg-3
Mig 3

All very welcome additions.

Luftwaffe additions:

FW-190A3 (early FW-190A)

Bf-109G6 (1943 model) - AFAIK the Bf-109G6 we have represents July'44 and later. It is unfair for the most numerically produced 109 to represent a '44 plane matching up in a 1943 set up IMHO.  At the same time there is a large performance difference between the '44 G6 and a '43 G6.  The '44 G6 certainly needs to be available and introduced to maintain balance.

Bf-109G14

USAAF

P39 (could double for VVS)
P47C
P38F or G

RAF

Early fighters are covered well for the RAF AFAIK.
Beaufighter?

IJNAF/IJAAF
Oscar (IJAAF)


Not a perfect list.  Just my thoughts.  

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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2004, 08:18:44 AM »
I think the pre-1944 era needs much better representation - that was the most interesting part of the war. But as long as the MA remains the main focus then many of these planes just won't see use - so some late-war planes should keep being added.

There are many variants of existing planes that could certainly help (P47B, 109K, P40N, P38D, etc.). As far as new plane models, I'd love to see:

P-39D & N
B-25 (incl. the G or H ground attack version)
Buffalo

He-111

Beaufighter
Firefly

Lagg-3
Mig-3
Yak-3
Pe-2

Ki-43 Oscar
Betty
Ki-44

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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2004, 09:48:59 AM »
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Originally posted by MRPLUTO

Priority should be given to:
Heinkel He-111H-3
Petlyakov Pe-2
S.M. 79
Mitsubishi G4M2
I know we don't really need another American bomber, but it would be nice to have something besides the Ar-234 to spend buff perks on.  So, I vote for the
B-29 Superfortress (nukes not included)
Other bombers:
Ju-87D-5 (the Stuka with 2 x 37mm)
Bristol Blenheim IV
Vickers Wellington
Ju-52
North American B-25C
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We need more early war fighters, not more uberplanes.
I'd give priority to:
P-39 N & Q
Nakajima Ki-43 Hayabusa / Oscar
Lockheed P-38 E or F
Mig-3, Yak-1, or Yak 3
Other fighters:
Me-410
Bristol Beaufighter
F2A Brewster Buffalo
Nakajima Ki-44 Shoki / Tojo
Kawasaki Ki-45 Toryu / Nick
Dewoitine D. 520
Polikarpov I-16 Rata
The Heinkel He-219 and North American P-61 Black Widow are very popular choices, but they are both night fighters, and until Aces High has night combat events with friendly icons only (that is, no enemy icons), I'd wait on them.
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As for GVs, I'd suggest the Sherman, the Churchill, and some kind of self-propelled artillery, 105mm size.
MRPLUTO


Great list MrPluto,
I would like to add the F6f-3 and the P38-J models. As for the French Dewoitine D. 520, I would really like to see this plane in AH, here is a link on a lil history of the D520
French Dewoitine D. 520  bit of history
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2004, 10:00:44 AM »
That's a very well thought out list :)

The only thing I would add/change, is the D4Y Suisei (Judy)

This mid war CV strike plane would be a good addition in my opinion, becuase as it stands now, the only CV strike planes that we have are the 1940-41 D3A and B5N, which don't stand a chance against US planes in a carrier duel.

While the D4Y retains a limited bombload, is it much faster than any Carrier strike plane in the current inventory, and would give the Japanese a fighting chance in mid-late war Carrier battles.

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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2004, 11:28:45 AM »
I would like to see these


    P39Q
    P40N

    B25
    Ju188
    betty

    Ki44
    Ki 102 w/57mm cannon

    Yak 1 and 3
    Lagg 3
    Mig  3

    IAR 80 or 81

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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2004, 12:00:02 PM »
last but nor least...

Ju-87G :)

btw how about the US Navy's  TBD torpedo bomber for early-war CV battle? We need a torpedo bomber that "matches up" with the B5N.

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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2004, 12:05:56 PM »
a/c:-

bomber: PE-2 or (small perk) TU-2.
fighter : L.F. Spit / Mig-3 / Lagg 3
Perk Bomber: Mossie B.35

Vehicle:

Firefly or Sherman (must be!)

for BoB : He-111 / Do-17
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2004, 01:14:18 PM »
This is my list:

F2A Brewster Buffalo
Bristol Blenheim
Fiat G.50
Curtiss Hawk 75A
Morane Saunier 410
Fokker D.XXI

I-16
I-153 Chaika
Lagg-3
Mig-3
Yak-3
Pe-2
Ilyushin DB-3M

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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2004, 06:15:44 PM »
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F2A Brewster Buffalo

If I may, not the F2A version of the Brewster, but the better and lighter B-239 version, please!

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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2004, 10:19:03 PM »
I'm glad so many of you like these suggestions, and I've carefully read all of your comments.  

SASMOX--

I agree, the Curtis Hawk 75A and Morane-Saulnier should also be considered, but I'd suggest the M.S. 406, not the M.S. 410.  The 406 was France's most numerous fighter.  Only 5 examples of the 410 had been delivered by the time France fell.

Furball--

The Dornier Do-17Z-2 "Flying Pencil" would be great for Battle of Britain scenarios, too.  I mostly prefer the Heinkel He-111 because of its evil shape when viewed from below.  It's such a classic image of the BoB.

wasq--

I had never heard of the B-239 version of the Brewster Buffalo.  It really is a very different and much improved version of the F2A.  The B-239's place is on the Finnish-Russian front, and the F2A's place is in the Pacific.  From what I've read, they are too different to substitute accurately for each other.  Here's a great website I found on the B-239.

Sikboy--

Definately, the Yokosuka D4Y Suisei / Judy should be on the list.

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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2004, 04:30:56 AM »
Yes, the M.S. 406 version was what the Finnish Air Force used too. France donated 50 planes to Finland during the Winter War, of which 30 were received and later more 406's were purchased from Germany. Here's some info on the Finnish Air Force fighters . But I'd like to see the Brewster model 239 before Morane. :)
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2004, 09:30:15 AM »
how bout the condore