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Offline OIO

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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2004, 09:54:59 AM »
they even come wrapped in white hankerchiefs...

so thoughtful :) ;)
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Offline lasersailor184

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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2004, 11:15:14 AM »
I still believe that There shouldn't be any flu shots.  If for some odd reason, no flu shots are usable, anybody who came to rely on them doesn't have a natural immunity and is ****ed.
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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2004, 12:27:25 PM »
good thing the French do not take the 'cowboys' which seem to make up the majority of posters here seriously
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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2004, 01:11:09 PM »
Isnt there only like a 1 in 4 chance they give the right shot anyway for the right strain?

I seem to remember last year they gave out the shot for one strain of flue and we ended up getting hit with an entirely different strain anyway
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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2004, 02:16:43 PM »
It's all hit or miss.  They try to judge what strain will be big 1-1.5 years in advance.
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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2004, 04:37:57 PM »
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If we have to pay for aid... then that wouldn't that instead be  considered trade?



Not when the US already had a annual 6.5 billion dollar trade deficit with France as of August.
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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2004, 04:43:31 PM »
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Not when the US already had a annual 6.5 billion dollar trade deficit with France as of August.


Are you suggesting that the US is too generous with the French in buying their goods? I would agree but it doesn't seem like you to say so.
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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2004, 05:06:08 PM »
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Are you suggesting that the US is too generous with the French in buying their goods? I would agree but it doesn't seem like you to say so.



Nope, balanced trade is the exchange of goods and/or services for likewise.  None balanced trade is the exchange of goods and/or services for pieces of paper with dead famous people on them.


Goods and/or services have inherent value in them.  Since the US went of the gold standard the dollar isn't back by any commodity with inherant value.  So the US is got 6.5 billion dollars worth of "free" stuff from France.  

France is giving the US vaccine (which has inherant value, you can like, vacinate people with it).  In exchange France is getting yet more dollars, which it already has more of than it could ever spend anyway.
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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2004, 05:11:53 PM »
Thrawn, are you saying then that France can't spend those US dollars on anything other than US goods? That is what it seems like to me.
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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2004, 05:14:48 PM »
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Thrawn, are you saying then that France can't spend those US dollars on anything other than US goods? That is what it seems like to me.


That is exactly what I'm saying.
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« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2004, 05:17:48 PM »
I think you're wrong. There are many countries willing to trade their goods for US dollars. If the French have no need of buying anything from anyone could they not trade them for a currency you deem more valuable?
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« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2004, 05:30:58 PM »
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I think you're wrong. There are many countries willing to trade their goods for US dollars. If the French have no need of buying anything from anyone could they not trade them for a currency you deem more valuable?


Well, some third world nations, but what would France want to buy from them?


France goes to Japan and says, "Bonjour, we want to buy $6.5 billion dollars worth of consumer electronics from Sony.".

"Ah-so," says Japan, "what are you going to use to buy the yen you need to buy the product from Sony?".

"Well we have these 6.5 billion USDs we got this year up to Augest.", France mentions hopefully.

And Japan responds, "...yeah thanks but no thanks.  You see we got almost 50 billion of the stupid thing so far this year (the US has an almost 50 billion dollar trade deficit with Japan as of August this year).  We'll take your Euros though.".
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« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2004, 05:38:18 PM »
Well, there is an open market for currency trading. However, I'll grant you that we buy far too much from France and some others. Maybe it's time we gave up on the idea of free trade and imposed greater constraints. I'm doing my part to reduce the trade deficit, with France at least.
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« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2004, 05:44:29 PM »
Greater constraints? The US lives on imports. What do you think will happen to the prices of just about everything if you start imposing these 'greater constraints'? I've seen the *****ing about fuel prices - I'd hate to see what would happen in that scenario.
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« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2004, 05:47:09 PM »
What would happen is that eventually we would become a producing country again instead of a consuming one. I never implied it would be easy.
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