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Fw190 WN 160022 in Earl Miller thread
« on: October 21, 2004, 07:37:08 AM »
Didn't want to clutter it, http://fw190.hobbyvista.com/werkn.htm lists it as a 190G-3.

Anyone have anymore details worth posting in Shane's thread?
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2004, 08:17:01 AM »
Yeah I know sometimes earl's logbook is a little on the spare side. every now and then he'll go into a little more description.

If anyone has some questions they'd like me to pass along to earl, put 'em here. I can't promise he'll answer them (all), but he's usually responsive.
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2004, 08:45:25 AM »
It looks like the unit code is DN but I can't find any listing for it. SKG 10 used the code KM so would not say it was a 'delivery code'. It is from the 11 Staffel.

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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2004, 02:51:32 PM »
IIRC one of Jeffrey Ethell's colour photo books contain some pictures of these captured LW planes. Probably in Sicily, several Bf 109s, Fw 190s, twins etc.

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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2004, 02:34:09 PM »
Might as well move the image here on the off chance folks can figure out more about the specific 190.

Thanks for the start too btw.  Didn't know it was a 190G

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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2004, 03:57:09 PM »
What's the source for the photo?

Do you know the location?

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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2004, 04:05:51 PM »
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What's the source for the photo?

Do you know the location?


The source of the photo is Earl Miller, the 350th FG pilot who flew 39s and 47s with them from North Africa into Italy with stops in Corsica and Sicily.

He's not positive but more then likely Corsica or Sicily.

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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2004, 04:38:42 PM »
OK If you like I will post it on another forum. I assumed it was from a private collection and didn't want to cross post with out permission.

Let me know..

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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2004, 04:41:05 PM »
Feel free Wotan.  Since the serial was readable, I figured someone might know how to track it's history.

Anything to add to the cause :)

Thanks

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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2004, 04:50:39 PM »
I made a post on the LEMB forums

Here's a link

http://p069.ezboard.com/fluftwaffeexperten71774frm34.showMessage?topicID=79.topic

I also linked back to this thread.

I will post on the AWF and AAW forums as well...

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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2004, 05:01:38 PM »
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I made a post on the LEMB forums

Here's a link

http://p069.ezboard.com/fluftwaffeexperten71774frm34.showMessage?topicID=79.topic

I also linked back to this thread.

I will post on the AWF and AAW forums as well...


Funny, I was just there earlier today looking at the downed and captured Spits.

I posted some photos of Me262 Yellow 17 there that I have in my collection in the Captured 262s at Fassberg thread a while back as well.

A most imformative site :)

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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2004, 09:29:51 PM »
The FW-190A5/U13 was blanket redesignated as the FW-190G3.  SKG 10 was testing several these A/C during the Tunisia campaign.  They gave them horrible reviews and many were reconverted to FW-190A5 standards.

I have a partial listing of all captured FW-190's.  Unfortunately this Werknummer is not on it.

I will see if I can dig anything up to help out.

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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2004, 06:31:41 AM »
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The FW-190A5/U13 was blanket redesignated as the FW-190G3.  SKG 10 was testing several these A/C during the Tunisia campaign.  They gave them horrible reviews and many were reconverted to FW-190A5 standards.

I have a partial listing of all captured FW-190's.  Unfortunately this Werknummer is not on it.

I will see if I can dig anything up to help out.

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Fw190A5/U13 was a combo of /U2 and /U8. There was 3 prototype a/c only, W.Nr 817(V43), 855(V44) and 1083(V42).  

It was the /U8 that Rott and Hein did not like. (pg 131,132) The G-3 was built from July to Aug 1943 and the comment by Rott was made when his unit was still in NA.

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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2004, 08:22:23 AM »
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SKG 10 was testing several these A/C during the Tunisia campaign. They gave them horrible reviews and many were reconverted to FW-190A5 standards.


The FW-190A5/U8 was later redesignated the FW-190G2.

AFAIK, only difference is the FW-190A5/U13 (FW-190G3) has the PKS11 autopilot.

Several FW-190A5/U8's and FW-190A5/U13's were converted for night operations.  The FW-190A5/U13's did not get converted until 1944.

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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2004, 10:54:39 AM »