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Offline JB73

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« on: October 21, 2004, 10:20:49 AM »
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=817&ncid=757&e=10&u=/ap/20041021/ap_on_fe_st/indonesia_pig_attack

yet another stunning example of muslim "extreemists"... this is getting to be accepted is seems.

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Police did nothing to stop the attack Wednesday in South Tatura, central Sulawesi province, the paper reported. The farms belonged to local Christians.
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2004, 11:16:36 AM »
No one ever seems to believe me about the religious war going on in the world.
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2004, 11:28:41 AM »
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2004, 03:00:09 PM »
Yea, everyone in the twin towers were christian extremists...

Oh wait, no they weren't.  The muslim extremists are out to kill everyone who doesn't follow their particular warped flavor of their religion.  It's a religious war between all religious extremists and the entire rest of the world, not between 2 poorly behaved religious extremist groups.

I'm personally on at least one target list and have been for over 7 years.  Being a target of a group of people I haven't done anything to really defined my attitudes towards religious extremist terrorists in general...  If they're dead they can't hurt me or my family, and since they declared war on me personally before I did anything, I have absolutely no regard for their welfare.  If they knock off their holy war and decline to continue coming after me and my family, I'd consider it "over", but they show no sign of doing so.  When it comes to questions of "them or me", I choose me every time especially because they came after me first.  I feel no compulsion to turn the other cheek because they'll keep killing until either they're wiped out or they convert everyone to their ways.

It's the difference between a military combatant and vermin.  For example, back in the cold war, the typical Soviet troop would be considered by anyone to be an enemy military combatant.  He probably didn't want to be fighting anyone, he didn't want to come to my house and kill everyone inside just to make a political statement or religious conversion, he was simply acting as the fist behind the last resort of the politicians of a legitimate government.  A terrorist for whatever reason has decided that he needs to kill people not for defense and not in the interest of a legitimate national interest, but to forward his own personal agenda.  Since I am not only a target in general, but also my name has been specifically passed to them, and there is no possible military justification behind targeting me or my family, to me they become vermin that need to be exterminated the same as I'd exterminate a scorpion running around in my house.

It's a good damn thing I'm not running the show because any city that harbored terrorists would have 48 hours to turn over the bastards or the city would be obliterated.  If they want to be terrorists or permit terrorists to live safely among them, they can live in holes in the sand like the rest of the vermin.

But I'm not running the show and I follow orders, so my life and the lives of my family remain at risk from these extremists who consider me and my family nothing but objects to be blown up to help make their religious statements.  Maybe that is called "civilization", giving people who have sworn to kill you and everyone you love a chance to do so repeatedly before you go after them, hoping that they'll get someone else next time and then just go away.
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2004, 03:05:03 PM »
well stated, pretty much sums up how i feel about it also.

dont forget they also believe they get into "heaven" by these acts of violence, and are given "special" treatment in "heaven" by dying in a fight for their religion
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2004, 04:14:07 PM »
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Originally posted by GScholz
and your current actions are necessary for their success.
just curious, what are my actions?

if i went to Baghdad tomorrow and walked down the street alone i'd probably be killed, for what?
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2004, 04:22:11 PM »
For your good looks?????


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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2004, 04:41:20 PM »
GScholz
 What are these specific goals the terrorists have? What will they do if they ever get them?

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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2004, 05:08:34 PM »
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GScholz
 What are these specific goals the terrorists have? What will they do if they ever get them?


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I'd be interested to hear an answer to this as well.

Seems I have heard some goals...Let's see if your ideas are the same.
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2004, 06:04:33 PM »
GScholz


Interesting post.  Thanks
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2004, 06:22:16 PM »
GScholz
 Interesting, I seem to have a bias that makes me think islamic fundamentalist Terrorst are stupid, and would not have thought out things like that in the long run, but, being a religous nut does not mean your stupid.

Interesing. I am working on getting past any misconception like that. Do you have any sources in book form or on that net you can give? I would love to add them to my library.

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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2004, 06:38:43 PM »
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There is a religious war. It's between Muslim extremists and Christian/Jewish extremists. Most of it is just harsh words, but may they all die painfully.


I know ya can't hear me GScholz but I don't think those pigs were extremists, just a little stinky maybe. Their extremist Christian owners did get a little outta line though, complaining about the lack of police protection and all. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2004, 06:39:57 PM »
Sorry Scholtz cant agree with most of what u said.

 Formost is Iraq,If America doesnt cut and run like most want,who would you want to fight , a strong determend America, or sad..damn.

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« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2004, 08:12:00 PM »
"By fuelling the flames of hate on both sides they hope to take advantage of the ensuing chaos and shape the future of the Middle East from the ashes of conflict."


If I was a Yankonian, I would be sorely tempted to look at map, chuckle, and say, "**** it...have fun Europe.".

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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2004, 08:34:18 PM »
GS your thoughts on the middle east are different, but that has nothing with indonesia as in the story i linked to...

the fact muslim's believe they can do "whatever" everywhere is beyond the middle east IMHO, and i liken it to the ghettos in LA and such. they do dispicable things, and the police dont act nearly as much or harshly as they should for fear of a "race riot" or something.

even here in lowly milwaukee a friend cop got rocks thrown at his car, and fruit... they just kept driving on in fear for their own safety. that is the norm in some bad neighborhoods. if they were to have stopped, they could have been shot (car already has 3 bullet holes from past incidents)


the children see this and think there is no authority, then go beat a homeless man to death, saying "it was like grand theft auto" when they were caught.


the story i posted was form the "oddly enough" when it should have been mainline news, not a "funny" story.
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