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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #45 on: October 20, 2004, 02:14:07 PM »
jab.... you make no sense... even if the coffee was boiling and bubbling away.... It's friggin hot coffee... if you are dumb enough to order hot coffee and then drive around with it then maybe you DESERVE third degree burns.   If the woman at the window working for mc donalds took your order and then threw the boiling coffee in your face or lap and it was mcdonalds policy to do so then...  yeah... you got a case... otherwise... don't order hot things if you don't have any sense.   Never ever will you convince me that a company deserves to be sued for making a product that is exacly what they told you it was.

As for the money thing.... I am saying that with a simpler lifestyle we today could probly cut our costs in half and still have more luxury than we had in the 60's.... most of our debt is because of our penchant for new toys and keeping up with the jones's.

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« Reply #46 on: October 20, 2004, 03:19:11 PM »
She wasn't driving the car.

McDonald's screwed up when they didn't settle for $800 when they had the chance.

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« Reply #47 on: October 20, 2004, 03:55:42 PM »
If coffee was hot enough to cause 3rd degree burns to your skin, what would happen if you actually tried to drink it? Wouldn't be pretty I'd imagine. Hell, nuke'd pizza rolls have burned the roof of my mouth pretty bad before.

Then again, McDonald's coffee isn't nearly as hot as it used to be :( iirc, they put in lower temp regulators in all their coffee makers after that incident.

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« Reply #48 on: October 20, 2004, 03:59:41 PM »
If you put a hot cup of coffe between your legs weather your driving the car or not,you dont have any way NEAR a right to sue when said "hot" liquid burns you to the bone.
 Whats next?Some kid sues Micky D's cause the ice cream gave him an ice cream headache? The loss of personal responsability in this country is absurb.
Take the famous Beavis and Butthead issue.Parents hire babysitter.Babysitter goes to a bar.Kids play with lighter and burn house and 2 siblings down.They blame B and B for showing Beavis playing with a lighter.B and B go off the air.Great.They found a patsy and THATS what this simple minded old crone did.She found a patsy to cover her idiocy.
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« Reply #49 on: October 20, 2004, 05:06:01 PM »
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« Reply #50 on: October 20, 2004, 07:15:32 PM »
So, how many of you who are self-righteously proclaiming that "she deserved it" have actually seen photos of her injuries?    

Sorry, but a spilled cup of coffee should not cause third-degree burns.  I won't argue that her means of holding it wasn't particularly smart...but still, the damage done is utterly excessive.  Some redness and maybe blistering is one thing (first or even second degree burns)--and is to be expected from a coffee burn.  Full thickness burns are an entirely different, much more severe kind of injury.  Those kinds of injuries are usually experienced by fire victims, not by a friggin drink.

Being a food product, it's supposed to be served hot, but safe (relatively).  There is utterly no need to serve a drink at insanely high temperature; a "hot" drink to most people will be in the 120 to 140 degree range.    As you approach temperatures near the boiling point the product is no longer reasonably safe and is certainly undrinkable (unless you want severe internal injuries).  



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« Reply #51 on: October 21, 2004, 09:12:29 AM »
with all due respect jab.... I don't care what her injuries looked like... justice is suppossed to be blind.  

A friend in a momentary lapse of judgement ran a cutting torch across his arm... It did not occur to either of us to sue the equipment manufacturer..


So what is your point?   Hot coffe should be illegal in this country?  how bout tea and other beverages?   hot food at mexican resteraunts?   Got a really good burn from some melted cheese..

are yu saying that because this brainless twit can't figure out that driving with hot coffee in your lap idiotic... that I can't have hot coffee now or.... are you simply saying that only mcdonalds can't serve hot coffee?

have you ever noticed the glowing red elements on your stove?

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« Reply #52 on: October 21, 2004, 11:56:57 AM »
Bush's isolationist attitude is worse for America than 9/11 was.

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« Reply #53 on: October 21, 2004, 04:34:26 PM »
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Bush's isolationist attitude is worse for America than 9/11 was.


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« Reply #54 on: October 21, 2004, 05:37:40 PM »
"I don't care what her injuries looked like... justice is suppossed to be blind. "

Oh come on, I don't think even you really mean that.  

So if I punch you and give you a black eye, I deserve the same penalty as if I shot you half a dozen times (assume you survive)?  After all, justice is blind and the injuries don't matter.

Or wait...no, you don't really feel that way....I've seen you repeatedly say that gun criminals need harsher sentences.  So you DO feel that the item used and the severity of the injury matters.   Hence...if someone burns himself with a blowtorch it's a different matter than if he burns himself with a drink.


Nope, no laws against hot food or drinks.  Only laws against products that are supposed to have a reasonable level of safety, but don't.  

In other words, you can order all the stupid-hot coffee you want if you specifically order it that way...but if you order it normally, then it sure better only cause normal injuries if you drop it in your lap (medium burns).  


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« Reply #55 on: October 21, 2004, 05:40:48 PM »
America only cares about what the British think nowadays so it seems.

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« Reply #56 on: October 21, 2004, 05:52:48 PM »
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A friend in a momentary lapse of judgement ran a cutting torch across his arm... It did not occur to either of us to sue the equipment manufacturer..


How about a gun analogy. Guns are dangerous if used improperly. If you buy a gun and put it to your head and pull the trigger -- it's operator error. If you clean it without making sure the chamber is clear and shoot yourself in the foot -- operator error. Guns are dangerous if excessively worn or improperly maintained.

But what if you buy a new gun and it blows up in your face using standard commercial ammunition because the manufacturer made decisions based on marketing vs. safety. Not a specific problem with an individual weapon, but a known design flaw with the model. Lets make it lighter, the market wants that, and worry if the design can handle standard usage later.  Soon, there were known failures, but the spreadsheet of profits vs. liability outweighed the risks. The gun was selling great and no other competitor offered one as light, at the same price, in the same caliber.

The previous accidents were covered up, and there was no reasonable way for the customer to know the company's product was any more dangerous than any other weapon. The now-blind customer had fired many rounds through many pistols, and had no reason to expect this brand new gun from an otherwise reputable manufacturer would cause any problems.

In the McDonald’s case the temperature was well above established norms for you, I or any commercial business. Injuries had occurred. But, a "flavor consultant" was listened to and a decision was made on sales vs. safety. Coffee is hot, you expect to spill some and expect to get a red spot maybe, or even a blister on the inside of your mouth on occasion. You do not expect to have the same result with coffee as you would with a blowtorch.

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