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Offline RedTop

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« on: October 21, 2004, 09:53:48 PM »
Election determines fate of nation



Published in the Daily Record on Oct. 6

By Mathew Manweller

Due to the high demand for this column, the Daily Record has decided to post it online. It is normally not the paper's policy to post opinion columns or editorials online. This column will remain on the site until Oct. 27. Should you want to purchase a print copy of it, please call (509) 925-1414. This content is owned by the Daily Record.

 
In that this will be my last column before the presidential election, there will be no sarcasm, no attempts at witty repartee. The topic is too serious, and the stakes are too high.

This November we will vote in the only election during our lifetime that will truly matter. Because America is at a once-in-a-generation crossroads, more than an election hangs in the balance. Down one path lies retreat, abdication and a reign of ambivalence.

Down the other lies a nation that is aware of it's past and accepts the daunting obligation its future demands. If we choose poorly, the consequences will echo through the next 50 years of history. If we, in a spasm of frustration, turn out the current occupant of the White House, the message to the world and ourselves will be two-fold. First, we will reject the notion that America can do big things. Once a nation that tamed a frontier, stood down the Nazis and stood upon the moon, we will announce to the world that bringing democracy to the Middle East is too big of a task for us. But more significantly, we will signal to future presidents that as voters, we are unwilling to tackle difficult challenges, preferring caution to boldness, embracing the mediocrity that has characterized other civilizations.

The defeat of President Bush will send a chilling message to future presidents who may need to make difficult, yet unpopular decisions. America has always been a nation that rises to the demands of history regardless of the costs or appeal. If we turn away from that legacy, we turn away from whom we are.

Second, we inform every terrorist organization on the globe that the lesson of Somalia was well-learned. In Somalia we showed terrorists that you don't need to defeat America on the battlefield when you can defeat them in the newsroom. They learned that a wounded America can become a defeated America. Twenty-four-hour news stations and daily tracing polls will do the heavy lifting, turning a cut into a fatal blow. Except that Iraq is Somalia times 10. The election of John Kerry will serve notice to every terrorist in every cave that the soft underbelly of American power is the timidity of American voters. Terrorists will know that a steady stream of grisly photos for CNN is all you need to break the will of the American people. Our own self-doubt will take it from there. Bin Laden will recognize that he can topple any American administration without setting foot on the homeland.

It is said that America's W.W.II generation is its 'greatest generation'. But my greatest fear is that it will become known as America's 'last generation.' Born in the bleakness of the Great depression and hardened in the fire of W.W. II, they may be the last American generation that understands the meaning of duty, honor and sacrifice. It is difficult to admit, but I know these terms are spoken with only hollow detachment by many (but not all) in my generation. Too many citizens today mistake 'living in America' as 'being an American.' But America has always been more of an idea than a place. When you sign on, you do more than buy real estate. You accept a set of values and responsibilities.

This November, my generation, which has been absent too long, must grasp the obligation that comes with being an American, or fade into the oblivion they may deserve. I believe that 100 years from now historians will look back at the election of 2004 and see it as the decisive election of our century. Depending on the outcome, they will describe it as the moment America joined the ranks of ordinary nations; or they will describe it as the moment the prodigal sons and daughters of the greatest generation accepted their burden as caretakers of the City on the Hill."
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2004, 10:11:29 PM »
That editorial was dumb.

Five sentences in, and the guy goes "Down one path lies retreat, abdication and a reign of ambivalence."

Mighty big assumption there.

Especially when it doesn't sound like anything Kerry is about. Five sentences in and he starts pulling watermelon out of his arse.

I'm glad it gave ya goosebumps or whatever, but it's just hackery.

I've said many times, and I continue to assert it.... that I've read WAY better stuff from both sides, right here on this BBS, than most of this kind of thing.

Listen to this crap:

"This November, my generation, which has been absent too long, must grasp the obligation that comes with being an American, or fade into the oblivion they may deserve."

Not only is it horrible writing, it practically SCREAMS "I am a stupid, stupid, muthahshrecker."

RedTop, if you wanna express some kind of... I don't know what... then say it yer own self. I would bet the farm that you could say it better.

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Nash....
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2004, 10:16:10 PM »
Wasnt trying to say anything...just thought it a nice read.

You a lil touchy? Kerry may still win man...ease up and have a beer. relax....You can blow up on the 3rd. :D
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2004, 10:25:08 PM »
Heh... No matter what happens, it's all good.

Over-the-top is my style, man. I can't help it. Whaddya want me to say? "Gee, I'm not sure I agree with that?" Yawn...

And whaddya mean by suggesting I'm a little touchy feely? Where do you GET that from? That is perhaps, THE MOST absurd thing I've ever heard in my whole entire LIFE!

Like, WHERE do you get off making that kind of assumption?!!!!

It's RIDICULOUS!!!

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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2004, 10:27:12 PM »
Nash, the prose is bad, and his assumptions are, eh, but the important thing he is correct about.

Kerry/Bush either will do OK, but the perception in the world is just as he says it is.

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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2004, 10:28:45 PM »
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Originally posted by Nash
Heh... No matter what happens, it's all good.

Over-the-top is my style, man. I can't help it. Whaddya want me to say? "Gee, I'm not sure I agree with that?" Yawn...

And whaddya mean by suggesting I'm a little touchy feely? Where do you GET that from? That is perhaps, THE MOST absurd thing I've ever heard in my whole entire LIFE!

Like, WHERE do you get off making that kind of assumption?!!!!

It's RIDICULOUS!!!

I CAN'T EVEN..... LIKE..... AAAAAIIEIEIEIIEIEIEIEEE

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BIATCH!



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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2004, 10:29:03 PM »
Nash what will you do if Kerry loses?

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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2004, 10:31:24 PM »
if heinz-kerry loses nash will move to canada eh.

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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2004, 10:32:48 PM »
Tell him what you think at:

manwellerm@cwu.edu

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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2004, 10:33:49 PM »
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Kerry/Bush either will do OK, but the perception in the world is just as he says it is.


Gee, I'm not sure I agree with that.

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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2004, 10:35:53 PM »
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Nash what will you do if Kerry loses?


Didn't you ask me that zact same question before?

Yer one of these guys that needs to hear the same damned thing over and over and over again before, whether you agree or disagree, it even registers.

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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2004, 11:53:30 PM »
like it alot, emailing it around if you dont mind
I don't know what to put here yet.

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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2004, 12:34:31 AM »
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Nash, the prose is bad, and his assumptions are, eh, but the important thing he is correct about.

Kerry/Bush either will do OK, but the perception in the world is just as he says it is.


 if Bush wins it would likely say to me that we just might be the arrogant, stubborn, 'do as I say not as I do',  country that a good size percentage of the world thinks we are.  it would also prove the old adage- "there is always one more idiot than you counted on"

If we vote Kerry in it could be taken to show that we can actually recognize and admit when we have made errors, and take steps to either put the mistake right or at the very least, learn from it and not repeat it again in another country next year.  it could also show that if our leader is unable to recognize, admit, and learn from his mistakes,  we are willing to set him aside and elect a new one.

 It's a small man who can't admit when he's wrong.

I imagine there's as many other ways that the message of our vote can be taken, as there are people to conceder it.

the author comes across as an arrogant blow-hard when he presumes to know what message the world will take from who-ever we elect.  he's an even bigger idiot to think that there is anything that the whole world will get the same message from.

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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2004, 12:43:30 AM »
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Didn't you ask me that zact same question before?

Yer one of these guys that needs to hear the same damned thing over and over and over again before, whether you agree or disagree, it even registers.


I never saw the answer, And I now cant find the thrwad.. :)

What did you say?

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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2004, 12:57:02 AM »
Wasn't it just yesterday?

I dunno....

AFAIC, the stuff I write exists in a bubble with the expiration date set for only a few hours long.

The next day... I dunno... It's funny to see the fall-out sometimes. And sometimes, I'm half tempted to hit the reply button and slam into the dumbarse who could write such a thing until I realize that it was me who wrote it.

Hang on... I'll scan the black dots on the little posty symbols and see if I can find what I said....

Score....

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Nash what on earth will you do if Kerry loses???


Why, I'd write to my local ombudsman and press for the immediate sealing of the border.

Uhm... lessee....

No biggie. I'll just be chillin'...

Kickin' it with my bad self in my crib with my homies. In my hood.

Keeping it real, as it were.

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Thars a reason for the expiration date. :)