Author Topic: Battlegroup 1st Battalion/Black Watch moves north (Read 1434 times)

AKIron · « **Reply #30 on:** October 22, 2004, 05:53:25 PM »

Careful Steve, you'll get on GScholz's ignore list.

Steve · « **Reply #31 on:** October 22, 2004, 05:59:25 PM »

Lol Iron.

I think I earned that honor at one point. It's fun bickering w/ Gscholz... if he put me on ignore, I'd miss the occasional vitriolic tete-e-tete, at least a little

ravells · « **Reply #32 on:** October 22, 2004, 06:06:08 PM »

But the sadness is that the Brits are being used for a US election campaign in this instance and not because they are truly required, I think.

Now that is really sad.

Anyway, I hope you lot don't let us down if and when we really need you.

Ravs

~~Hi Scholz! Good to see you !~~

AKIron · « **Reply #33 on:** October 22, 2004, 06:10:17 PM »

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Originally posted by ravells
But the sadness is that the Brits are being used for a US election campaign in this instance and not because they are truly required, I think.

Now that is really sad.

Anyway, I hope you lot don't let us down if and when we really need you.

Ravs

Sad? Hope you don't mind if I'm not feeling sad for you. Along with us you are making the world a better place for almost everyone. Of course it may take many years for that to be evident and some may forever refuse to see it.

Of course we'll never let ya down.

ravells · « **Reply #34 on:** October 22, 2004, 06:14:14 PM »

'In this instance'

were the operative words. I have always believed that deposing Saddam Hussein was, on balance, a noble objective.

I don't believe sending 850 of our soldiers to prop up your incumbent president's election campaign is a noble purpose. If our boys are dying for your president, then maybe we ought to get a vote in your election

~~Ravs~~

AKIron · « **Reply #35 on:** October 22, 2004, 06:17:30 PM »

If it'll make you feel any better ravells, I'll give ya my vote. You can feel proud that you voted for Bush.

SunTracker · « **Reply #36 on:** October 22, 2004, 06:18:18 PM »

Need a special group to detect/destroy all these roadside bombs.

ravells · « **Reply #37 on:** October 22, 2004, 06:21:52 PM »

LOLOL! Iron........I think I'll pass on that one.

~~Ravs~~

Chortle · « **Reply #38 on:** October 22, 2004, 06:22:15 PM »

I dunno ravells, it seems more plausible now than it did when it was first suggested. Seems they needed some troops with previous experience and their own armour and even the US army can get a bit stretched.

I may be naive but surely Bush isn't going to get much from this. If he wanted to show a coalition in Iraq he could just pick up some film from the BBC of the UK around Basra.

ravells · « **Reply #39 on:** October 22, 2004, 06:27:05 PM »

Chortle...they said on 'Question Time' last night that the US Marines have more men than the entire British Army.

Kerry has been constantly using the 'we have no allies' argument against Bush. Deals are being done in the background about the reassignment of the Black Watch. And I hate to say it, but if we lose men in the 'triangle of death' then their lives will just provide Bush with an answer to Kerry about 'no allies'. Nothing more.

Ravs

[edit] The US never needed the UK from a military standpoint to invade Iraq or to hold it. We were only there for political purposes. I for one am proud we were there, but that doesn't mean we are making a signifcant difference apart from saying 'we are standing with the US'.

vorticon · « **Reply #40 on:** October 22, 2004, 06:43:42 PM »

of course, it couldent possibly be to free up some troops for fallujah, or other such insurgency hotspots...

can i borrow some tinfoil?

Chortle · « **Reply #41 on:** October 22, 2004, 06:45:53 PM »

I'm sure they're capable of pulling off some Machiavellian shenanigans behind the scenes but if Bush really wanted to refute Kerrys 'standing alone' thing I can picture the political add Bush could run with existing footage of our troops in Basra. Does it really matter where in Iraq they are?

I didn't know that about the US Marines, it does give it some perspective but I'd like to think the UK military wouldn't agree to being pawns in some political game.

ravells · « **Reply #42 on:** October 22, 2004, 06:46:15 PM »

Vorticon, Can you be more plain in your answer?

I honestly don't understand what you're saying.

Ravs

vorticon · « **Reply #43 on:** October 22, 2004, 06:47:22 PM »

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Originally posted by ravells
Vorticon, Can you be more plain in your answer?

I honestly don't understand what you're saying.

Ravs

me neither.

ravells · « **Reply #44 on:** October 22, 2004, 06:51:18 PM »

Chortle, I hate to say it, but I think you're being very politcally naive.

Having UK troops working with US troops on the eve of an election where one of the problems that the republicans are dealing with 'no allies' criticisms from the opposition, just really begs for camera footage of one of our most famous regiments working with the US in Bagdhad.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we're backing up the Americans but this is for votes, not for a military objective.

Ravs