Author Topic: KI questions....(tony) (Read 1002 times)

humble · « **on:** October 22, 2004, 01:35:43 PM »

Happened to grap a Ki-61 for 1st time in AH2. Seems to be a much more formidable plane than in AH1? Just curious how big the difference is (or am I imagining it) and which is closer to reality?

Soulyss · « **Reply #1 on:** October 22, 2004, 01:52:30 PM »

I haven't flown it much in AH2 yet, but in AH1 I always considered it one of the most underrated planes in the game. What little time in AH2 I have spent in it has been in the CT where I haven't noticed much of a change, it could and still does out turn a F4U

Karnak · « **Reply #2 on:** October 22, 2004, 02:02:30 PM »

To me it seems it was better in AH1 than in AH2.

1K3 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 22, 2004, 02:03:15 PM »

the Ki in this game can turn with (or out turn) F4Us and F6Fs planes in sustained tuerns except the wildcats.

Mitsu · « **Reply #4 on:** October 22, 2004, 03:51:00 PM »

It's underpower plane, but it's turner than AH1's one, and its controllability is better.

I always think if it is powerful, or lighter...I hope Pyro decides to release early Tony (Ki-61-I-Ko or Otsu), Ki-61-II, and Ki-100-I-Otsu!

Karnak · « **Reply #5 on:** October 22, 2004, 03:57:04 PM »

Mitsu,

You think it turns better?

It seems to me that in AH1 I could out turn F6Fs and F4Us in it and in AH2 the F6F and F4U out turn the Ki-61-I-Tei.

You are defineatly right about it being underpowered. That is what keeps me from flying it. Well, that and it's poor visibility.

Slash27 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 22, 2004, 04:01:42 PM »

I am able to turn fight it pretty good in a F6F. It does seem a bit better ride in AH2 that AH1. I still dont fly it a whole lot but I really love its cannons rapid rate of fire.

vorticon · « **Reply #7 on:** October 22, 2004, 04:05:13 PM »

feels better in ah2 than 1, but i dont fly it enough to really know.

Mitsu · « **Reply #8 on:** October 22, 2004, 04:49:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
Mitsu,

You think it turns better?

It seems to me that in AH1 I could out turn F6Fs and F4Us in it and in AH2 the F6F and F4U out turn the Ki-61-I-Tei.

You are defineatly right about it being underpowered. That is what keeps me from flying it. Well, that and it's poor visibility.

I out-turned F6Fs and F4Us in AH2 but I've been out-turned by P-38L at vertical...hehe

Again I hope to see those 3 Tonys in AH2...

1) Ki-61-I-Ko or Otsu...it's lighter than Model "Tei", this model would be maneuverable than it. Also, this model fills the gap of early(-mid) Japanese plane set.

2) Ki-61-II...it has 1500hp class liquid-cooled engine. this model is heaver than Model "Tei", but faster and climbs and dives better. Also it has about twofold 20mm ammo to Model "Tei". The Ki-61-II would be one of the best BnZ fighters in Japanese plane set.

3) Ki-100-I-Otsu...it has 1500hp class air-cooled engine. this model is lighter than Model "Tei". The top speed is the same, climbs and accelerates better. it turns much better by lighter weight and improved weight balance too. Also it has about twofold 20mm ammo to Model "Tei...The Ki-100-I-Otsu would be one of the best TnBer in Japanese plane set. The I-Otsu has also bubble canopy, its visibility is good.

OOZ662 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 22, 2004, 06:20:46 PM »

I think the F6/F6s were upgraded and that's why they might turn better than the Tony.

Widewing · « **Reply #10 on:** October 22, 2004, 07:42:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
To me it seems it was better in AH1 than in AH2.

I agree. It took a big hit in maneuverability. Was a time when it could handle the P-40E in a stall fight... No longer, the P-40 eats it alive.

My regards,

Widewing

humble · « **Reply #11 on:** October 24, 2004, 07:04:40 PM »

I think its a much better turner in AH2, I've had no real problem 1 on 1 with any plane (now some of the pilots are a diff storty:)). Fubar got me with a zeke (but was a pretty good fight) and flyboy took me out back to tool shed in 38 (just kills Ki in vert) but other than that it'll handle any plane pilot combo...obviously numbers kill it since your not gonna run anywhere and you've got a small clip but overall its a nice ride. I've flown it for 3 days now and am 51 & 22 which is about as good as anything else I'd fly:). I'd say 10-12 deaths are vulchee or buff and the others are 1/2 being run down by multiple la-7s and such. The other 5-6 are just getting wupped on...but that'll happen regardless of plane (IMO). Had 2 25+ perk hops today in it....Think I like it better than 205 (especially on "big" maps) but not as good an MA ride as -1 hog.

humble · « **Reply #12 on:** October 24, 2004, 07:06:02 PM »

3) Ki-100-I-Otsu...it has 1500hp class air-cooled engine. this model is lighter than Model "Tei". The top speed is the same, climbs and accelerates better. it turns much better by lighter weight and improved weight balance too. Also it has about twofold 20mm ammo to Model "Tei...The Ki-100-I-Otsu would be one of the best TnBer in Japanese plane set. The I-Otsu has also bubble canopy, its visibility is good.

Hmmm....

Sign me up for one

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 26, 2004, 04:51:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Widewing
I agree. It took a big hit in maneuverability. Was a time when it could handle the P-40E in a stall fight... No longer, the P-40 eats it alive.

My regards,

Widewing

I wouldnt say that. Matter of fact, as I was reading the posts I was thinking just how well it does against P40s, both in stall fights and in chasing them down. It's a tad bit faster level, it climbs better, and it will certainly outperform a P40E in a stall fight.

HoHun · « **Reply #14 on:** October 26, 2004, 05:43:11 PM »

Hi Widewing,

>I agree. It took a big hit in maneuverability. Was a time when it could handle the P-40E in a stall fight... No longer, the P-40 eats it alive.

Surprising! What's the boost of that P-40E? I've made a quick estimate for the Ki-61, using DB601A-1 data (1020 HP max), compared to a thorough P-40E analysis (1210 HP max at 44" Hg/ 3000 rpm).

My results suggest a great advantage for the Ki-61 in most respects, particularly turn. As the P-40E is heavier by a ton, that seems realistic to me :-)

Regards,

Henning (HoHun)