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Offline Overlag

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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2004, 09:18:52 PM »
whenever i get near getting behind a la7 it just presses X, and flys away from me with its 50-75mph speed advantage over what i fly.......

as soon as i give up, he turns around and zooms upbehind me as if im at walking pace! What can i do to fight that? well fly a La7, well, thats what most people seem to choose.

i can kinda unstand why the nik isnt perked.... after all its a weak plane but the LA7 is small, fast, turns well and its strong.....



thing is, i think the perk system needs reworking somehow.
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Offline pellik

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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2004, 02:30:58 AM »
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Originally posted by Overlag
whenever i get near getting behind a la7 it just presses X, and flys away from me with its 50-75mph speed advantage over what i fly.......

as soon as i give up, he turns around and zooms upbehind me as if im at walking pace! What can i do to fight that? well fly a La7, well, thats what most people seem to choose.

i can kinda unstand why the nik isnt perked.... after all its a weak plane but the LA7 is small, fast, turns well and its strong.....



thing is, i think the perk system needs reworking somehow.


Getting la7s into a good kill zone requires taking advantage of their turn radius. You want them to feel like they will get a nice kill shot on you if they just turn in your scissors. Planes with good flaps have the easiest time suckering la7s into a quick kill position. Just let him cross behind you 90degrees aot and reverse into him. His high speed will bring him right accross your nose for the quick kill shot, or he will have decieded to run despite having an apparent advantage (bore N zoom fighters). If he is too timid to put himself in a vulnerable position you probably don't need to work very hard to evade his next pass, as he most likely is a terrible pilot.

Another good way to deal with them is to fly something with either no convergence or set your convergence to very far out. With tracers on just shoot up his tail as he trys to run. Once they  see they can't survive being anywhere in the 600-800 range they will usually turn until the end.

As far as dealing with the ones who just wait for you to break off before they  come back in on you, all you need to do is expect this to happen. Break off and immediately check to see what your opponent is doing.

-pellik
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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2004, 02:58:03 AM »
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As far as dealing with the ones who just wait for you to break off before they  come back in on you, all you need to do is expect this to happen. Break off and immediately check to see what your opponent is doing.

-pellik


You didn't finish this paragraph.  ;)   Please continue...
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Offline Schutt

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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2004, 03:32:44 AM »
Dont perk it, i want lots of la7 in the air so i get more points shooting em down.

When perked the dweeb la7s will run away faster and there is no difrence for the good pilots as they kill me anyway.
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Offline Chortle

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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2004, 04:21:19 AM »
The cost of flying La7's should be the constant questioning of their manhood on open chan, especially by their own team.
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Offline Dead Man Flying

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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2004, 10:23:25 AM »
What Pellik said.  In addition, another move I like to pull on La7s that is Spit or turnfighter-limited is to pull a low-G, slightly nose down horizontal turn.  Get them to commit to a tracking shot, and as they tighten their turn to cut inside you, pull a little bit harder and a little bit harder.  The key is to stay just above their reticule from their point of view and never allow them to pull in closer than that; they'll almost have the shot but not quite.  Soon enough they'll exhaust all of their energy trying to turn for the shot, at which point you reel them in by cranking the plane around.  Usually the enemy is slow enough that even an La7 can't dive away before getting a butt full of lead.

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Offline TalonX

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« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2004, 03:37:56 PM »
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The La7 does not need to be perked.  If you have troubles against the La7, maybe a visit to a trainer might be in order.

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Nah - my K/D against the LA-7 in any plane is about 2.5 to 3 : 1.    

I enjoyed the discussion though.   However disingenuous this quoted post may be.   To imply the LA-7 is an easy kill to someone other than an experienced pilot shows a lack of remembering being a newer player.
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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2004, 03:43:06 PM »
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To imply the LA-7 is an easy kill to someone other than an experienced pilot shows a lack of remembering being a newer player.

Or a lack of consideration for fans of rarer aircraft.

The La-7 is, frankly, the motivating factor behind my plan to switch from the Mosquito Mk VI to the Ki-84.
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Offline Wurger

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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2004, 01:51:59 PM »
The Ki84 should be an excellent LaLa killer :D

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Offline AKFokerFoder+

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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2004, 12:03:25 PM »
Absolutely not!

This month the LA7 has been a consistant perfomer as my favorite target plane. In fact I have more kills of the LA7 than any other plane, although  I have just about as many kills of a Pony D as the L-Gay-7 :D

And I fly a 190A8.

Instead of whining about perking the LA7, take advantage of the target rich environment. :)

It ain't the game that needs changing, it's you attitude. ;)

Instead of perkin' them, kill them all,

And let God sort it out :rofl

Anyways, it's an old rehashing of an old thread.
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Offline Stang

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« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2004, 02:34:06 PM »
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This month the LA7 has been a consistant perfomer as my favorite target plane


Well duh, all the dolts are flying them.
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Offline bustr

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« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2004, 03:38:08 PM »
Oh..does this mean I should no longer feed them to my P47 as a warm up snack. I'm sorry should I be giving LA7's a special pass and salute, then leave them alone?:)  

I'm sooo confused. Will you guys get together on this. Is the LA7 the Evil Uber Russian Crotch Biter, or is it a kibbel snack for P47's????????????????????:rolleyes:
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Offline indy007

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« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2004, 05:21:50 PM »
People have more kills on the LA-7 than most other planes for a reason. There's *ALOT* of them to shoot at. Probably more of them than any other fighter in the game when ENY isn't shutting it down.

Since the MA is pretty far divorced from realistic WW2 fighting (as it should be imho, save history for the CT) the fights are always going to be on the deck where the lala shines. If you set a hard deck, and stick to it, lala's aren't a problem. The WEP advantage disappears @ 10k. Rope them with a superior climbing plane, get them up high, and beat them senseless. I fly -G10s cuz I was tired of getting run down by LA7's. Now I get a free advantage anytime they try to climb with me... and they try it alot.
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Offline AKFokerFoder+

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« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2004, 03:07:18 PM »
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Well duh, all the dolts are flying them.


Heh :)

While not all LA7 pilots are dolts, it does seem to attract a lot of bunny pilots. :D

In the hands of a good pilot, the LA7 is a plane to be feared.  In the hands of a bunny pilot, it is a target.  But that can pretty much be said of any plane.  I think a lot of inexperienced pilots pick it because of it's brutal acceleration and speed on the deck lets them get out of situations caused by bad SA.

Last month I shot down 15 LA7s, and lost one plane to an LA7.  And I remember that one as I let him HO me.

There is no reason to perk the LA7 IMHO :)
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Offline pellik

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« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2004, 04:54:51 PM »
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You didn't finish this paragraph.  ;)   Please continue...


I thought the thought was complete, but I can expand it out a little if you like here.

Let's say I'm trailing 2k behind an la7 and deciede to break off. I'll do a high yo-yo (more efficient then a flat turn) and immediately look back to confirm that the dweeb la7 has turned around to try and fight me again. At this point I'll usually start an early split-s or low yo-yo to get verticle seperation, and immel right up behind him as he trys to figure out how to HO a lower plane. Now I'm higher then him and directly behind him and he is running, again, and I try to shoot off his tail as he pulls away, again. If he is really intent on running, and I'm really bad at shooting, I just keep repeating this until he gives up or runs out of gas. Usually once they see they can't HO you they either keep running or make some really bad turns and die quick.

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