Author Topic: Socialism in France (Read 486 times)

moot · « **on:** October 26, 2004, 03:32:43 AM »

recipe for ****.
I always found political talk boring and heavy, just bad taste, but seeing it first hand after years in the US, it's just backasswards.
My father worked abroad in the USSR a lot, way back then, and even at that age I somewhat understood the general concepts of what I saw in the media and what he mentionned, but didn't take it seriously because I realized there was more to it than I knew, and already had recognized political talk was rarely rational.

I'd idealized the french a lot while I was gone, remembering only the good points, but I can't help but "hear" the right-wing comments about "leftists" being whiners.

The people are feeding the system rather than the opposite. And I don't mean just money.
Absurd.

Suave · « **Reply #1 on:** October 26, 2004, 05:01:31 AM »

minus ?

Saintaw · « **Reply #2 on:** October 26, 2004, 05:07:00 AM »

I'm not sure I get your point either Moot

That being said, the word "Socialist" in France (and Belgium) is not used in the same sense as it would be in the old eastern block, it's what you would call "Liberal" in the US. What you would refer to as "Socialist" would be called "Communist" over here. That is if you look at their party lines.

The "Liberal" party over here is what you would call "Republican" ... kind of confusing realy. The other difference is that we would have about 10 different effective parties forming the government, as compared to 2 parties, with big fuzzy words being used all the time like "coalition", "collaboration", etc...

bozon · « **Reply #3 on:** October 26, 2004, 05:12:49 AM »

hehe, americans get strange twitches and convulsions when they hear "socialism"

Bozon

lazs2 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 26, 2004, 08:10:11 AM »

kerrie is a socialist.

lazs

AKIron · « **Reply #5 on:** October 26, 2004, 08:45:27 AM »

(my post kinda lost it's way)

Octavius · « **Reply #6 on:** October 26, 2004, 08:58:19 AM »

LOL Iron. I had to look that one up... too fantastic to be true

It isn't

AKIron · « **Reply #7 on:** October 26, 2004, 09:03:34 AM »

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Originally posted by Octavius
LOL Iron. I had to look that one up... too fantastic to be true

It isn't

damn, now I have to find another, spoilsport

moot · « **Reply #8 on:** October 31, 2004, 11:17:36 AM »

Semantics.
This country, its govt system, the effects on and countereffects from society, mixed with its culture, economics, etc.

It sucks.
fun for vacation, fun to appreciate the local **** as with any other place, but certainly not for anything longer, anything permanent.

Thrawn · « **Reply #9 on:** October 31, 2004, 11:24:51 AM »

Bush is a socialist.

Nilsen · « **Reply #10 on:** October 31, 2004, 12:11:27 PM »

Bush is nothing but a dangerous religious fanatic.

Octavius · « **Reply #11 on:** October 31, 2004, 12:27:58 PM »

You know I never really did see any religious fanaticism from Bush. I don't understand how he got that label outside of pandering for votes to the true fanatics (namely pentacostals) and other uber conservative christian groups. If he seriously bought into that, you'd here him preach during speeches, and we'd see him with his hands in the air and convulsing at a service.

john9001 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 31, 2004, 01:12:12 PM »

today, john heinz-kerry, while campaigning in a church said, to vote for him was to "walk in the footsteps of Jesus".

Nilsen · « **Reply #13 on:** October 31, 2004, 01:17:03 PM »

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Originally posted by Octavius
You know I never really did see any religious fanaticism from Bush. I don't understand how he got that label outside of pandering for votes to the true fanatics (namely pentacostals) and other uber conservative christian groups. If he seriously bought into that, you'd here him preach during speeches, and we'd see him with his hands in the air and convulsing at a service.

Maybe because he mentions god in more than a few sentences and how he was placed in the whitehouse by god to do his work?

Torque · « **Reply #14 on:** October 31, 2004, 01:29:45 PM »

The Jesus Factor.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/etc/synopsis.html