The truth about the MISSING EXPLOSIVES STORY

[john9001]

it's very simple.

no WMD was found, so that means there were no WMD.

no 380tons of high explosive were found, so there was no 380 tons of high explosive.

how hard is that to understand?


of course, saddam could have buried the 380 tons of high explosive with the nonexistant WMD in the desert.



to date US troops have found/destroyed 400,000 tons of Iraq munitions. it looks like "oil for food" was really "oil for weapons"

[rpm]

Assumimg Iraqi's follow US civilian load regs (which I doubt) it would be 15 tractor trailer loads of 25 tons, not 38. NBC News has said they were misquoted by the Bush campaign and are not backing Bush's statements that they are proof it was'nt there.

I've given you a source showing we did not guard ammo dumps AFTER we secured them and insurgants used that ammo against American troops. This was not an isolated incident.

You ask how many insurgents were in Iraq after the war. How many Republican Guard, Baathists and other Saddam supporters were there? THEY were/are insurgents.

Bush expected flowers and kisses when we defeated Saddam and that is what he planned for. Unfortunately for him, that wasn't entirely the case. The first rule of war is never underestimate your enemy. Bush did just that and failed to have a plan in place to prevent possible munitions looting.

[Eagler]

how in the heck do you know "and insurgants used that ammo against American troops"?

you know for a fact - they have labels on them or something?
You don't even know for certain ANYTHING was stolen. Anyone SEE anyone walking away with 380 tons of boom in his pockets?

"NBC News has said they were misquoted by the Bush campaign and are not backing Bush's statements that they are proof it was'nt there" - who cares what NBC says? they are in it to get their boy skerry in office by any means possible as are the other lib news orgs - just doing their part you know...

bunch of last minute liberal spin made to daze and confuse the retard who lets his gut make last second decisions for his poor excuse of a brain ... congrats for being sucked into it
LOL

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by rpm
Assumimg Iraqi's follow US civilian load regs (which I doubt) it would be 15 tractor trailer loads of 25 tons, not 38. NBC News has said they were misquoted by the Bush campaign and are not backing Bush's statements that they are proof it was'nt there.

I've given you a source showing we did not guard ammo dumps AFTER we secured them and insurgants used that ammo against American troops. This was not an isolated incident.

You ask how many insurgents were in Iraq after the war. How many Republican Guard, Baathists and other Saddam supporters were there? THEY were/are insurgents.

Bush expected flowers and kisses when we defeated Saddam and that is what he planned for. Unfortunately for him, that wasn't entirely the case. The first rule of war is never underestimate your enemy. Bush did just that and failed to have a plan in place to prevent possible munitions looting.

A. Without knowing the volume 25 tons of explosives occupies, you have no idea if 25 tons will even FIT in one average 40 foot trailer.

B. Even IF 25 tons of explosives DID fit, now you ASSUME thaty they HAD 15 such rigs and could move about the country freely without being seen and or searched.

C. You ASSUME that these explosives MUST be the improvised explosives used by the TERRORISTS (they are NOT INSURGENTS).

D. You have ZERO PROOF of ANY of the above.

E. CBS (more like SEE BS) "News" ADMITS (not necessarily of their own free will, they got caught by a memo)that they planned to "break" this "news" of something that has been known for over a YEAR, the Sunday before the election. This is AFTER Dan Rather got BUSTED for KNOWINGLY using FORGED "memos" to CREATE a story.

F. You are so bent on Bush's "destruction" it isn't funny. You are so full of fecal matter it must be terribly difficult to swallow, but I'm sure if SEE BS and/or Kerry claimed Saddam tried to prevent the attacks of 11 September 2001, you'd certainly attempt to swallow that. Check your redline RPM, you're spinning damned near the speed of light.

[Dowding]

E generally comes before F.

[lazs2]

dowding is correct.... say what you want about cbs and their obvious agenda and sleazy lying and forgeries...

at least they know how to alphabetize!

lazs

[Dowding]

Say what you will about Bush, his obvious agenda and his sleazy lying and forged African uranium shipment documents... he at least knows about his alphabetaizicalities!

[john9001]

Originally posted by Dowding
Say what you will about Bush, his obvious agenda and his sleazy lying and forged African uranium shipment documents... he at least knows about his alphabetaizicalities!

stop stop ..all this spinning is making me dizzy.

re. African uranium .
     nobody ever said saddam actualy bought the uranium ore(yellow cake).

what was said, is that saddam was trying to buy the uranium ore.

[Flit]

I think the point of this thread is point out  the obvious attempt to minipulate the election.
I don't care who is president , or what tv station attempted this, or what side did it,it is WRONG
  Anyone who does'nt see that it's wrong is to stupid to be allowed to vote
 It has nothing too do with If the explosives were there or not.
  It has to do with manipulating a democratic election, in the USA.
  If we're going to set an example for the rest of the world, I don't think this is the one we want to set.
 As a matter of fact, I 'm gonna go make my complaint to the FCC right now.
 I would suggest anyone who thinks this is wrong should do the same. If enough complain, They'll have'ta do something about it

[JBA]

BUSH REBUKES KERRY OVER 'MISSING EXPLOSIVES' ATTACK
Wed Oct 27 2004 11:59:11 ET

Bush at rally in Pennsylvania:

"After repeatedly calling Iraq the wrong war, and a diversion, Senator Kerry this week seemed shocked to learn that Iraq is a dangerous place, full of dangerous weapons..."

"If Senator Kerry had his way... Saddam Hussein would still be in power. He would control those all of those weapons and explosives and could share them with his terrorist friends. Now the senator is making wild charges about missing explosives, when his top foreign policy adviser admits, quote, 'We do not know the facts.' Think about that: The senator is denigrating the actions of our troops and commanders in the field without knowing the facts..."

"Our military is now investigating a number of possible scenarios, including that the explosives may have been moved before our troops even arrived at the site. This investigation is important and it's ongoing. And a political candidate who jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts is not a person you want as your commander in chief."

[lazs2]

flit... don't worry... someone as stupid as dowding will not be allowed to vote in this election.

lazs

[AKIron]

Originally posted by lazs2
flit... don't worry... someone as stupid as dowding will not be allowed to vote in this election.

lazs

If only that were true.

[Dowding]

If you pair are the only aces in the pack, god help America.

AKIron and Lazs - like a broken LP of Hitler's greatest speeches that never gets past track one; overblown, tired old rhetoric ad nauseum et infinitum.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Dowding
If you pair are the only aces in the pack, god help America.

AKIron and Lazs - like a broken LP of Hitler's greatest speeches that never gets past track one; overblown, tired old rhetoric ad nauseum et infinitum.

Could be worse, they could still by a subject under the crown of King George's relatives...

[Dowding]

I suggest you try to avoid using Hollywood as a study aid.