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The Russians and the missing weapons in Iraq
« on: October 27, 2004, 11:07:27 PM »
You heard it here first :)

There's a problem with the link to the Washington Times:(

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041028-122637-6257r.htm

This is all I could copy, not sure if it's accruate:

GERTZ // THURSDAY // WASH TIMES: Russian special forces troops moved many of Saddam Hussein's weapons and related goods out of Iraq and into Syria in the weeks before the March 2003 U.S. military operation, The Washington Times has learned. John A. Shaw, the deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, said in an interview that he believes the Russian troops, working with Iraqi intelligence, “almost certainly” removed the high-explosive material that went missing from the Al-Qaqaa facility, south of Baghdad.
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2004, 11:58:46 PM »
I hear that the russians are out of chemical explosives and will do the most out rageos things to aquire it.

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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2004, 01:22:49 AM »
kinda agree w/ pongo.  If this were still the cold war...sure why not.  What would the russians have to benifit from this.

They know that Iraq is gonna get rolled on.  They know that the "Oil for food" scandle is gonna become public.  Why would they risk this?

OTOH, if this is the truth....makes you wonder what else they moved

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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2004, 03:56:32 AM »
Everybody knows Russians are bad people. They do bad things!

Sounds a little ridiculous to me.
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2004, 04:02:18 AM »
Russia is not evil, but neither are the French. Who knows what the hell happened?

I'm just guessing, but I'd say the crap was moved before we got to the area. Even Saddam's own records suggest some movement of the HE in comms to the UN.

It's just an old story resurected in a Presidential race.... nobody in America really gives a rats arse about it because we know it's bs on some level.

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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2004, 04:18:21 AM »
Fox Mulder told me that the cloned Nazis living under Antartica and mind controlling the UN sent a squadron of black helicopters to retrieve the chemicals that they sold to visiting Aliens.
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2004, 04:39:54 AM »
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Fox Mulder told me that the cloned Nazis living under Antartica and mind controlling the UN sent a squadron of black helicopters to retrieve the chemicals that they sold to visiting Aliens.


And I'd bet you believed it all.

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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2004, 05:04:14 AM »
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Fox Mulder told me that the cloned Nazis living under Antartica and mind controlling the UN sent a squadron of black helicopters to retrieve the chemicals that they sold to visiting Aliens.



now this is the best peice that i have read in awhile.   :rofl

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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2004, 06:39:12 AM »
The Truth is out there.
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2004, 06:46:44 AM »
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The Truth is out there.


and it ain't nothing that comes of this phoney's piehole
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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2004, 07:08:36 AM »
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Russian special forces troops moved many of Saddam Hussein's weapons and related goods out of Iraq and into Syria in the weeks before the March 2003 U.S. military operation, The Washington Times has learned.


Drunk bearded people wearing fur hats with huge red stars and their pet white bears?

They will show empty vodka bottles and abandoned balalaikas as the evidence, no doubt!

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John A. Shaw, the deputy undersecretary of defense


I love the name of his position! :D

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for international technology security, said in an interview that he believes the Russian troops, working with Iraqi intelligence, “almost certainly” removed the high-explosive material that went missing from the Al-Qaqaa facility, south of Baghdad.


If he believes something "almost certainly" - he must cross himself. Russian troops my ***:D

Now I'll not be surprised if mr. Shaw will jump out of the window screaming "Russians are coming!!!"

One question: do average people in America believe this hallucinations?

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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2004, 07:52:56 AM »
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and it ain't nothing that comes of this phoney's piehole


:rofl That is dumb two party politics. :rolleyes:

Here's a clue for you: Lying is a requirement in politics.
Bush hasd lied to you multiple times, anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot.

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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2004, 08:01:21 AM »
RPM will you and your GUY kerry apologize now or later for your false accusations?  




http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20041028-122637-6257r.htm

Russian special forces troops moved many of Saddam Hussein's weapons and related goods out of Iraq and into Syria in the weeks before the March 2003 U.S. military operation, The Washington Times has learned.


"The Russians brought in, just before the war got started, a whole series of military units," Mr. Shaw said. "Their main job was to shred all evidence of any of the contractual arrangements they had with the Iraqis. The others were transportation units."


The Pentagon said there was no evidence of large-scale movement of explosives from the facility after April 6.
    "The movement of 377 tons of heavy ordnance would have required dozens of heavy trucks and equipment moving along the same roadways as U.S. combat divisions occupied continually for weeks prior to and subsequent to the 3rd Infantry Division's arrival at the facility," the statement said.
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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2004, 08:22:20 AM »
gee... I guess if I was working for the sadman and had supplied him with questionable weapons and the U.S. was gearing up to kick my bosses butt and then find weapons and take names...


I might slip out the back door with the stuff too... maybe even turn a profit on it from someone who wanted the stuff like the syraians.    

probly will find empty vodka bottles all over this story.

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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2004, 08:38:09 AM »
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probly will find empty vodka bottles all over this story.


I think mr. Shaw (if he exists) uses some mind-extending substances stronger then vodka.

This stupid story simply fits into mass propaganda because everyone knows that Russians are evil, they killed Kennedy and crusified Christ. Goes right along with pet bears, fur hats and vodka instead of tea.