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« Reply #60 on: October 31, 2004, 03:13:39 PM »
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I thought you had that American translation. It would seem to me that you don't, since you are speculating on what (a), (b) and (c) are.


What part of:

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The document breaks down production by factory and date on all the other varients. The format listing is different for the FW-190G3 alone for some reason.  



Is unclear to you Milo?

http://www.topedge.com/panels/ww2/na/supplies.html

No one is denying that Rommel did not have supply problems to his troops.  Read the above site.  It says nothing about the Luftwaffe experiencing fuel supply problems nor do any of the Luftwaffe units I am aware of mention fuel supply problems.

The Luftwaffe units do mention spare parts and aircraft supply problems but not fuel.

We know the Reich had plenty of aviation fuel and at this time was even exporting it.  Getting fuel to an airfield is a completely different logistical problem from getting supplies to a manuver unit in the field.

Do not twist facts and add your own meaning.

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« Reply #61 on: October 31, 2004, 04:02:20 PM »
Yup, a smoke screen on your part since you fail to give any reference file number for the document in the archives at W-P.


Getting fuel across a large body of water, the Med is not as easy as a pipe line or rail transport as would be done in continental Europe. Supplying only 31% of the supplies required in Feb. which would include avgas. Then you have to truck, using scarce fuel, that avgas to the LW bases.  Sure Crumpp. Spin any kind of story you want.

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« Reply #62 on: October 31, 2004, 05:13:39 PM »
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Yup, a smoke screen on your part since you fail to give any reference file number for the document in the archives at W-P.


What number are you talking about Milo?  This question shows your ignorance.  

If you are talking about the Luftwaffe report:

Look at the top left of the first page!!

If your talking about WP filing system.  I did not write it down because it is not relevant.  The documents are kept in cardboard boxes and in numbered manilla folders.  The only way to "search the database" is to pick up the files and thumb through them.  It only took me a whole day.

Almost every document I have found contains multiple file numbers stamped across it.

Your question is completely ignorant and shows you have no experience in serious research on this subject.

Original reports look like this:







And are very expensive.  They may or may not contain a file or report number depending on the document.

Some Archives do keep a detailed file system such as:






Some documents contain Rechlin, Luftflotte, Company, or even local branch file numbers and others do not.

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« Reply #63 on: October 31, 2004, 06:02:38 PM »
Hey there.
In the future we will meet, in London perhaps, have countless pints of bitter, and we won't give doodly-squat about this thread ;)
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #64 on: October 31, 2004, 08:37:52 PM »
The box has to have some kind of ident on it as well as the manila envelope. Hence a filing reference number.


Your inability to read and comprehend English Crummp. My post about a lack of fuel. The Germans were in full retreat from Sicily. You are not bright enough to comprehend that the supply situation at that time would be in trouble and might mean that there was not enough fuel available to fly out all the a/c to Italy. Oh well that is what tunnel vision gives you, eh Crumpp.



Angus, there is some good pubs in St John's. How about there instead? :)

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« Reply #65 on: October 31, 2004, 09:01:25 PM »
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You are not bright enough to comprehend that the supply situation at that time would be in trouble and might mean that there was not enough fuel available to fly out all the a/c to Italy.


Milo,

No your not smart enough to understand there is no mention of a fuel shortage by any of the Luftwaffe units AFAIK.  However there is documented evidence that parts and planes were more of a problem for the Luftwaffe at this time.

The A/C in question could have had maintenance problems and therefore was not flown out.

I know EB-104 was captured in Sicily due to it being abandonend on the field with minor maintenance difficulties.  At WP they had a complete record of the A/C.  On the capture document it was listed as engine maintenance required and a log entry notes it took several days of engine work to get the plane airworthy IIRC.

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