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Ripsnort · « **Reply #15 on:** October 29, 2004, 09:24:02 AM »

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Originally posted by Otto

It's going to be a long night on Tuesday.....

The election will not be decided on Nov. 2nd. More like Dec.

Otto · « **Reply #16 on:** October 29, 2004, 10:35:18 AM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
The election will not be decided on Nov. 2nd. More like Dec.

You got that right

We have to find a solution to this mess but I'm not sure how. I think the Federal Government has to step in and set a 'standard' that all the states have to follow but not be involved with the actual election.

National voting procedures run by the States.

It's too late now.......

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #17 on:** October 29, 2004, 10:50:50 AM »

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Originally posted by rpm
Kick that spin machine in high gear! He predicted Kerry, deal with it.

The more important thing he said on the Daily Show was that emotions were running so high that a large part of the population wouldn't accept the outcome if their candidate lost in a close race. Not surprising after Florida in 2000, though Republicans calling foul in '04 would be a bit ironic.

So yeah, expect lots of recounts and intrigue ... maybe worse. So y'all better stock up on ammo and bottled water, it could be a long week.

lazs2 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 29, 2004, 11:08:33 AM »

yep.. could be interesting... Bush is still ahead by a couple of percent in the popular vote and a tad ahead in the electorial... but..

A lot of the states that kerry needs he is holding on to with his fingernails... he not only needs to take some from Bush but he needs to hold on to states that are a vitual tie...

It could go that Bush wins by one real state like last time or... a couple that are close.. I have no doubt the democrats will try to subvert the will of those people again. there will be a huge mess...

It could also be that Bush takes three of the key states... In that case... I don't think the people will stand the overturning of all three states by lawyers... I don't think the democrats would persue that one because of the damage it could cause them in the long run.... they will run polls tho to see how much they can get away with.

or... bush could lose by one or so states and that would be the end of it. He would congradulate kerrie and be done with it.

lazs

rpm · « **Reply #19 on:** October 29, 2004, 11:12:09 AM »

After all the crying of "an army of 10,000 Democrat lawyers" it will be interesting to see how Republicans try to defend the "Army of Litigators" the GOP will unleash.

AKIron · « **Reply #20 on:** October 29, 2004, 11:12:38 AM »

I'm gonna go with Gallup on this.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/login.aspx?ci=13792

I'm betting that when Kerry sees the handwriting on the wall he will bow out gracefully.

Mighty1 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 29, 2004, 11:14:59 AM »

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Originally posted by rpm
Kick that spin machine in high gear! He predicted Kerry, deal with it.

Spin?

I did not challenge his numbers I did not challenge his comments I just stated what he said and what he didn't say. Which was the numbers do not show Kerry to be the clear winner.

He gave his opinion and said it may or may not be right but he hoped it was. "Hoped" not definite.

So how was my comment a spin?

rpm · « **Reply #22 on:** October 29, 2004, 11:20:19 AM »

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Originally posted by Mighty1
Translation: He wants Kerry to win but he doesn't have the numbers to back it up.

When you start reading people's minds and inserting your opinion you entered Spin City. You meet Michael J Fox yet?

Mighty1 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 29, 2004, 11:32:35 AM »

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Originally posted by rpm
When you start reading people's minds and inserting your opinion you entered Spin City. You meet Michael J Fox yet?

HELLOOO is this thing on?

He said that Kerry would win but he didn't have the numbers to back it up so how is this mind reading?

lazs2 · « **Reply #24 on:** October 29, 2004, 11:33:50 AM »

iron... I bet if kerrie loses more than two key states he will bow out gracefully. I am betting that if it is only one or one major and one minor he will fight like a little girl who has been spoiled all her life and is being told no for the first time.

lazs

AKIron · « **Reply #25 on:** October 29, 2004, 11:37:53 AM »

hehe lazs, we won't have to wait much longer to see

lazs2 · « **Reply #26 on:** October 29, 2004, 11:40:29 AM »

yep... I will survive either way... just hope it doesn't do too much damage to the system.

lazs

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #27 on:** October 29, 2004, 11:56:11 AM »

Lazs.

About the only thing I do agree with you about is that if it looks like Kerry won, W will be gracious and offer his kind congratulations. He'll need to sedate Cheney first, of course.

In a way, maybe a huge debacle would be the best thing. Another Watergate ... riots at the voting booths ... an angry mob descending on Fox News with torches and pitchforks ... get Bob Villa to rig some nice guillotines. Then when the dust settles and the bodies are buried we can ditch this retarded electoral college and put in some good solid 20th Century technology to let the popular vote actually decide the damn election.

AKIron · « **Reply #28 on:** October 29, 2004, 12:06:35 PM »

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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Lazs.

About the only thing I do agree with you about is that if it looks like Kerry won, W will be gracious and offer his kind congratulations. He'll need to sedate Cheney first, of course.

In a way, maybe a huge debacle would be the best thing. Another Watergate ... riots at the voting booths ... an angry mob descending on Fox News with torches and pitchforks ... get Bob Villa to rig some nice guillotines. Then when the dust settles and the bodies are buried we can ditch this retarded electoral college and put in some good solid 20th Century technology to let the popular vote actually decide the damn election.

I think your assessment of the result of wide spread rioting and overthrow of our government is a fantasy much like the idea of utopia shared by many liberals. If there is to be revolution the ones with the guns will win.

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #29 on:** October 29, 2004, 12:12:31 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
I think your assessment of the result of wide spread rioting and overthrow of our government is a fantasy much like the idea of utopia shared by many liberals. If there is to be revolution the ones with the guns will win.

So you're calling me a liberal?

But I'm a gun owner.

Don't you feel safer now?