If you follow Zogby...

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by Mighty1
He said last night on the Daily show he thinks Kerry will win but he said he really didn't know for sure.

He said the challenger almost always gets a surge right before the election but then again Bush is still ahead by almost the margin for error so he isn't sure.

Translation: He wants Kerry to win but he doesn't have the numbers to back it up.

Which Daily Show were you watching?

Basically he is picking Kerry because it is too close to call, and the undecideds usually don't vote for the incumbent. He said he hoped he was right, not because he wants Kerry, but because his job is to be accurate.

But you can spin it like a top all you want.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by DoKGonZo
So you're calling me a liberal?

But I'm a gun owner.

Don't you feel safer now?

If you are advocating riots and overthrow of our constitution should Bush win the election, then yes, I'm calling you a liberal.

I feel pretty safe here in Texas, do you? I didn't feel so safe in Las Vegas in '92.

[DoKGonZo]

Originally posted by AKIron
If you are advocating riots and overthrow of our constitution should Bush win the election, then yes, I'm calling you a liberal.

I feel pretty safe here in Texas, do you? I didn't feel so safe in Las Vegas in '92.

Ahahahahahahahhahahahhahahaha hahaha ... I needed that.

The electoral college is an antiquated system built for a different time - centuries ago. It. Is. Obsolete. That you twist this into "overthrow of the constitution" and bandying about the L-word does not help your cause one bit.


The two years I spent in Texas was the longest decade in my life. I didn't feel safer there by a long shot - I wouldn't expect you to understand why.

But that wasn't what I was asking about - you said the people with the guns will win. Well, you say I'm a Liberal, and I am from Boston ... but I own guns and I was on the pistol team in college, and I'm decent with a hunting bow if need be ... so I guess I win, huh? Now do you feel safe?

[AKIron]

Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Ahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahaha ... I needed that.

The electoral college is an antiquated system built for a different time - centuries ago. It. Is. Obsolete. That you twist this into "overthrow of the constitution" and bandying about the L-word does not help your cause one bit.


The two years I spent in Texas was the longest decade in my life. I didn't feel safer there by a long shot - I wouldn't expect you to understand why.

But that wasn't what I was asking about - you said the people with the guns will win. Well, you say I'm a Liberal, and I am from Boston ... but I own guns and I was on the pistol team in college, and I'm decent with a hunting bow if need be ... so I guess I win, huh? Now do you feel safe?

If you are a liberal with a gun you are a minority. For the sake of argument, let's exclude our police and armed forces, who would be undoubtedly opposed to those trying to overthrow our government, who do you suppose would win a civil war in this country, convservatives or liberals?

[Widewing]

Originally posted by midnight Target
AND again last night, Zogby said he predicts a Kerry win.

I think the only flip flop here is on Rip's feet.

Zogby is very active in Arab-American PACs, which disqualifies his personal opinion as mere wishful thinking.

Exit polls in early voter states show Bush leading by 7%. WIthout question, exit polling is more accurate than likely voter polling, because there is no doubt that they did, in fact, vote.

My regards,

Widewing

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by Widewing
Zogby is very active in Arab-American PACs, which disqualifies his personal opinion as mere wishful thinking.

Exit polls in early voter states show Bush leading by 7%. WIthout question, exit polling is more accurate than likely voter polling, because there is no doubt that they did, in fact, vote.

My regards,

Widewing

ROFL.. funny dude.

1. Zogby's job is to be ACCURATE. If he isn't ACCURATE people will not use his services. His prediction was based on evidence and experience. If it isn't he is a fool. If you think that... you are a fool.

2. WTF does Arab American PAC's have to do with it? Are you insinuating that Arab Americans hate Bush en-mass?  Or is this just another form of subtle racism?

3. Exit polls accurately show only the segment of the population that is caught exitting! Hardly a cross section or a statistically significant result. Maybe you would like to quote the AOL poll too?
 
4. I think Zogby is wrong. I think Bush is gonna win. Just getting sick and tired of the constant insinuation that ANYTHING anti-bush must be some kind of hidden agenda. Can't wait till Nov. 3rd.

[DoKGonZo]

Originally posted by AKIron
... For the sake of argument, let's exclude our police and armed forces, who would be undoubtedly opposed to those trying to overthrow our government, who do you suppose would win a civil war in this country, convservatives or liberals?

Revolutions generally fracture along the same line: haves versus have-nots. There are an awful lot of very angry have-nots right now.

[DoKGonZo]

Originally posted by midnight Target
... Can't wait till Nov. 3rd.

Amen ... lets just end this already ... we're all screwed no matter who wins anyway.

[lazs2]

gonzo... I don't think that the guns that liberals will allow you to own will do you much good.   If you are a kerrie voter then you are a liberal and against private gun ownership in any meaningful way.  or... owning guns is really not very important to you.

lazs

[AKIron]

Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Revolutions generally fracture along the same line: haves versus have-nots. There are an awful lot of very angry have-nots right now.

No argument here, the other was purely hypothetical. So long as the "have-nots" get their new TVs and stereos and then go back home peacefully the police and national guard will be able to handle the situation.

[DoKGonZo]

Originally posted by lazs2
gonzo... I don't think that the guns that liberals will allow you to own will do you much good.   If you are a kerrie voter then you are a liberal and against private gun ownership in any meaningful way.  or... owning guns is really not very important to you.

Polls indicate that many "Kerry voters" are really "Anyone But Bush" voters. So your argument is flacid.

[AKIron]

Since you brought up violence as the impetus to force a change in our constitution Dokgonzo lemme ask for your opinion on this:

http://www.drudgereport.com/ee.mp3

Was that an attempted voter intimidation?

[lazs2]

how so?   it is simple.  If you are for keeping your gun rights and against socialism and liberalism then it is anyone but kerrie.... otherwise you are simply pretending to not be a liberal.  

really am leaving now... need to go shooting.

lazs

[DoKGonZo]

Originally posted by AKIron
No argument here, the other was purely hypothetical. So long as the "have-nots" get their new TVs and stereos and then go back home peacefully the police and national guard will be able to handle the situation.

Many have-nots are on the police force and in the military. I don't think it'd resolve itself the same way in Dallas as it will in Detroit, or in LA or Atlanta or Boston.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Many have-nots are on the police force and in the military. I don't think it'd resolve itself the same way in Dallas as it will in Detroit, or in LA or Atlanta or Boston.

I was one of those have-nots in the military for 20 years and so I think my evaluation of which way the military would go is probably more accurate than what you seem to be suggesting.

Personally, I will never recognize any changes to the constitution made unconstitutionally.