Author Topic: Spawning with your turret towards enemy? (Read 461 times)

SCDR · « **on:** October 30, 2004, 10:56:20 PM »

GooseCH spawned in from V64 to A3. TwoDogs5 and I were on 2
different sides of the spawn point. First Goose spawned with his
turret pointed at 2Dogs and then after I killed him he spawned
back and now his turret was pointed at me. It was 90 deg from
the front of his panzer. I have a DSL connection and my ping is
90 - 100. How is it possible for this to happen?

SCDR

Kev367th · « **Reply #1 on:** October 31, 2004, 01:00:09 AM »

Think it goes into the guys spawning/firing without ever appearing problem.
Seen the same thing with guys spawning turrets already turned.

JB73 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 31, 2004, 01:47:02 AM »

i have thaqt problem, i think people with good connects are hindered in AH.

tonight i was spawning PT's for the heck of it, but continued on film to show what was happening.

i would click the spawn point, then before i even got there, whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap, i am in the tower, whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap, i spawn again, whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap whap, and i am back in the tower.

i never even saw the water, let alone any planes.

as far as tanks go, remember in AH one where enemies could shoot through the VH but you could not shoot out through your own VH wall? well i had the happen TONs of time to me, someone would shoot out through the wall of their VH. i know how they did it too, alt tabbing numerous times would make the walls of the VH dissapear on your FE, then shooting through it was not an issue.

also the point you mention, someone spawns and starts to turn their turret. the dont appear on your FE until they have already turned the direction of you. they "appear" with the turret pointed right at you.

this has happened to me so many times have given up counting.

i have a rock solid cable connect, almost zero varience 99% of the time, and pings in the low 30's and 40's.

Kev367th · « **Reply #3 on:** October 31, 2004, 02:37:14 AM »

Been saying for a long time that cable and DSL users are at a disadvantage.
Includes in this collisions.

yb1yb1 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 31, 2004, 06:41:03 AM »

gooseCH is a squad mate of mine he is on dsl or cable i dont remember wich one

Mugzeee · « **Reply #5 on:** October 31, 2004, 08:01:19 AM »

Also i have found that it is constantly changing.
Example: I spawned out to a point one time and after a few seconds paccer killed me. Now i know where he is. So i spawn out and begin swinging the turret in his direction. I almost bring the gun to bare a whack im dead again. I spawn again and repeat the steps till i finally take him out. Now heres where it gets interesting/frustrating. Paccer respawns and i take him out.(Im still in my original position). He spawns again and all i see is a round coming right at me! NO tank in view...just the round. And Whack im dead! It was Paccer again. I did get a vis on his tank at the same moment i took the hit from his round. we spent and hour exchanging rounds in the same spot. Sometimes i could get the turret around before he got a vis on my tank. And sometimes it was the other way around. One thing remained constant during this battle. The player that was sitting and waiting on the other to spawn was always the one to suffer the Delayed NME Appearance. (DNA) as i like to call it.

It seems the spawner can always get first visual. Just go to #3 position when you spawn and look around. You almost will always see the NME tank seconds before he fires at you.

Then there is the player that seems to always to be nothing but a tracer from the ground or trees. Some players jusr remain invisable far to long to get a fix on.
Either way im thinking it will never be fixed. Its just one of those factors in the game we will have to live (Or die) with.

68DevilM · « **Reply #6 on:** October 31, 2004, 10:35:17 AM »

ahh the spawn camp

in a nutt shell when someone spawns he or she has a 2-3 seconds before you see him.

why, because were spawn camping

SCDR · « **Reply #7 on:** October 31, 2004, 10:52:23 AM »

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Originally posted by 68DevilM
ahh the spawn camp

in a nutt shell when someone spawns he or she has a 2-3 seconds before you see him.

why, because were spawn camping

OK, how can you support that statement? Is it written somewhere? Is this a "state secret" that Bish were never told how to do?

I will submit that spawn camping is part of the sim, but when the
front end of a tiger or panzer , like in this case, is pointed 90 deg
away and the turret is pointed right at you. Something is not
right.

SCDR

TequilaChaser · « **Reply #8 on:** October 31, 2004, 11:05:57 AM »

I never have been all that great in GV's , and get whacked alot by Spawn Campers, but this is a keeper thread.....

Spawn campers complaining bout dieing because they can't kill the GV's spawning before they get kilt.......

AFK.........getting cleaning stuff to get coffee out of the keyboard!

Spawn Campers are the same as cherry picking vulchers, check that, they are in a lower class than vulchers........

68DevilM · « **Reply #9 on:** October 31, 2004, 03:29:11 PM »

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Originally posted by SCDR
OK, how can you support that statement? Is it written somewhere? Is this a "state secret" that Bish were never told how to do?

I will submit that spawn camping is part of the sim, but when the
front end of a tiger or panzer , like in this case, is pointed 90 deg
away and the turret is pointed right at you. Something is not
right.

SCDR

why do you think they have a 2-3 second adavantage?

so they can get thier turret around on you before you see them...

trust me i do a ton of spawn camping

SCDR · « **Reply #10 on:** October 31, 2004, 07:08:54 PM »

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Originally posted by 68DevilM
why do you think they have a 2-3 second adavantage?

so they can get thier turret around on you before you see them...

trust me i do a ton of spawn camping

What do you mean 2 - 3 second advantage? Where is that info or
is this just something you've found out? I spawn to a base and if
there's campers there I don't get that 2 - 3 sec adv.

TC, SHUDDAAUPPPP!!!!:lol I have a valid question. Guess you feel
about the same way about camping as I do about HOs. Camping
is a valid defence. People say HOing is valid.
BTW it doesn't take much to break up a camp, tho you're gonna
die a few times before it happens.

SCDR

68DevilM · « **Reply #11 on:** October 31, 2004, 07:59:15 PM »

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Originally posted by SCDR
What do you mean 2 - 3 second advantage? Where is that info or
is this just something you've found out? I spawn to a base and if
there's campers there I don't get that 2 - 3 sec adv.
SCDR

i dont think its written anywhere, just common knowledge among fellow veteren gv guys i guess?

no but seriously its true. have you ever spawn camped and youll hear a panzer start up and be rolling before you ever see him spawn?

same thing with his turret, that 2-3 second gap gives your enemy time to have a fair or somewhat fair shot at takeing out the spawn campers.

i guess it was ht's way of making it more fair becuase everyone can see where the spawn point is, ya know

SCDR · « **Reply #12 on:** November 01, 2004, 12:33:17 AM »

AHHHH!!! That's what I'm doing wrong. I jump to pintle gun amd
listen for gvs. THAT'S where I lose the 2 - 3 seconds.

SCDR

68DevilM · « **Reply #13 on:** November 01, 2004, 04:31:03 PM »

right!

what i usually do if i know theres spawn campers is as soon as i hit the spawn button i go to my turret and turn it as fast as i can,

it usually takes a couple trys but hey, hes gota reload.