Author Topic: Vulching Redux  (Read 626 times)

Offline TalonX

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« on: November 01, 2004, 09:14:28 AM »
This is my favorite discussion...so I like keeping it alive.

Vulching is the fine art of killing an enemy on the runway, usually during take off, but could be landing.

Vulching is villified by some, practiced by many.

My opinion is based, at least partly, on history.   Many planes were shot on the runway, taking off, or landing.  Probably most air to air kills on Me262s were when they were caught low and slow on landing.  

I see nothing wrong with vulching.   If you want to upped at a capped base, you deserve what you get, pure and simple.

The notion of chivalrous combat went out in WW1.   Douglas Bader (DFC, etc,  22 kills with no legs) said, "It's not a bloody game of cricket".   What he meant was, it's our job to kill the enemy, not play at sport.

Up a capped field?   Die as expected, but stop crying about it.
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Offline Flyboy

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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2004, 09:25:48 AM »
i have no problem with vulching.

but i do consider the kills i get when vulching to be of "lower quallity"

Offline TalonX

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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2004, 09:29:14 AM »
Ok, Flyboy....I agree.  I never came back and said, "Wow, what a great vulch!".

Now, land a kill against some of the big studs?   That's exciting.
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Offline Darkish

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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2004, 09:33:04 AM »
Ok. I'm in...

i) This isn't WWII - and as a game the notion of chivalry, although not apparent, is practiced by a few.

ii) I have nothing against vulching to aid a base capture.

iii) Had a classic couple of weeks ago - after hitting pork targets let a yak get up - gave him a minute to get up to speed, then got stuck into a good knife edge fight.  The bugger owned me - not to mention straffing me after my engine siezed up forcing a ditch.

..... but, I learnt a bit from it - my skills at hitting near stationary targets need no more honing, my ACM does.

Offline Wurger

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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2004, 11:47:24 AM »
Now vulching does take considerable skill to kill the guy upping, avoid hitting the ground, and avoid getting killshootered, avoid the field ack, the manned ack and the GV ack, and then get positioned to do it all over again before the other 25 other pilots from your country get the next guy on the runway :D

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Offline kj714

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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2004, 12:31:39 PM »
The only thing I hate about vulching is that the pilot can't deploy his chute  so that you can kill him again.

HT... please make the vulchee jump out of his burning plane and run like mad to the map room, so that we can chase and strafe him all the way there.

That should make it more satisfying!

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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2004, 01:16:08 PM »
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Originally posted by kj714
The only thing I hate about vulching is that the pilot can't deploy his chute  so that you can kill him again.

HT... please make the vulchee jump out of his burning plane and run like mad to the map room, so that we can chase and strafe him all the way there.

That should make it more satisfying!


now that would be most exciting, all kinds  of giggles and stuff :D
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Offline Guppy35

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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2004, 01:21:56 PM »
And of course we know that when joe blow lands 15 kills in his LA7 that it wasn't through his skill in ACM :)

So if you are vulching to cap a base for capture so be it, but if you are vulching to pad your score, I'm not impressed  

And we've all seen the guys who race past their buddies who are involved in the dogfight  near the base, so they can get to the field and hopefully grab some cheap kills of guys taking off and flee.  Meanwhile their buddies in the dogfights are keeping the base defenders occupied and doing all the work

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Offline GOTSOME

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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2004, 02:17:27 PM »
I agree with Talon X on the fine art of Vulching.  I believe the same goes for SPAWN CAMPING.  If you spawn and immediately get killed what does that tell you?  If you have half a brain you'll come back with support or up a bomber and carpet bomb the Spawn Site.  Don't keep spawning and then cry to your suppressor on A Channel.  I'll give ya credit trying to bust a good spawn camp solo but good luck especially when its camped with Tigers. :D

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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2004, 02:47:37 PM »
I actually was quite proud of my vultching. As a rook, I witnessed a Knit 110 Vultch a LA5 while taking off - I loosed a rocket and right after the LA5 exploded, it cap'd the 110 in the fuselage and sent me home laughing. That was poetic justice.



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Offline jaxxo

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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2004, 02:56:07 PM »
I think vulching gets less frequent with experience. It doesnt satisfy me one bit. Ill fly low in the furball and high to cap a field, let the other guys have their "fun" vulching. (goons on the hotpad dont count) If im going for a strat and someone pops up..oh well...Its the professional vulcher that annoys me..guys with good skill who STILL avoid all fights to buzz runway( cough..pacerr..cough MrBodhi lol) Oh well have the fun doing whatever i guess..just a game.

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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2004, 03:03:32 PM »
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Originally posted by kj714
The only thing I hate about vulching is that the pilot can't deploy his chute  so that you can kill him again.

HT... please make the vulchee jump out of his burning plane and run like mad to the map room, so that we can chase and strafe him all the way there.

That should make it more satisfying!


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Offline tapakeg

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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2004, 03:34:35 PM »
I'll vulch all day, but a plane coming in for a landing gets to land.
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2004, 06:09:25 PM »
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Originally posted by tapakeg
I'll vulch all day, but a plane coming in for a landing gets to land.


agree.

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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2004, 08:18:24 PM »
The only more better thing than vulching is shooting a chute.
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