Give me LIBERATOR or give me...Ditch?

[bj229r]

B24 wasnt quite as tough as 17---hydraulic lines always gettin shot out..crews felt safer in 17's--seen that perpective in more than a few books

[Mugzeee]

woooohooooo
We'v got er.



And she looks very nice Superfly. Thanks

[United]

I do beleive you participated in my thread a while back Mugzee, but the B-24J is pretty much the same as the B-24D in bomb loads.  Now the question is, Did they model it to allow the 12,000lb bomb load?

Im glad to see it as well.

[Karnak]

Originally posted by United
Now the question is, Did they model it to allow the 12,000lb bomb load?

For game purposes, I would hope not.  It should have the 8,000lb load as it's max option.


That way you have these factors:

Bombload:
Lancaster
B-24J
B-17G

Firepower:
B-17G, B-24J
...
Lancaster

Range:
B-24J
B-17G, Lancaster

Durability: (My best guess)
B-17G
Lancaster
B-24J


It forces you to make trade offs for whatever you pick.  You want firepower and durability, take a B-17G.  You want bombload, take a Lancaster.  You want a balance between the two or fuel range, take a B-24J.  Choices that have real differences are good for gameplay.

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by United
I do beleive you participated in my thread a while back Mugzee, but the B-24J is pretty much the same as the B-24D in bomb loads.  Now the question is, Did they model it to allow the 12,000lb bomb load?

Im glad to see it as well.

Yes i think i did. I do hope the range will be the key feature.
But lets be "realistic". I doubt the modle will be what i think it should be.

karnak
B17 had a Range of 1850 miles with a 4000 lb. Bomb Load.
While the B24 Liberator had a Range of 2300 miles with a 5000 lb. Bomb Load.

The B17's normal bomb load was 6000 lbs.
B24's normal bomb load was 7 to 8000 lbs

[Karnak]

Mugzeee,

Yup, that was why I listed it above the B-17 for both payload and range.

[Mugzeee]

I do think the Special Events needed a Scenario bomber before the B24 release. But maybe one is already in the plans soon.

[simshell]

Originally posted by Karnak
I like hitting the factories with the Ki.67.  Its great at it.

If I want to kill some Me163s I'll take it over to the HQ, though a Ki.67 can do jack all to it.

Try the Ki.67, its the most under rated bomber in AH.

have to ask karnak

when i take off to bomb a factory unlike most i dont do it to padd my score but to effect the war   my 1 target is the grunt factory because troops are allways being porked at bases in the MA today

how does a KI67 make a good factory bomber?  the bombload seems to small

[Karnak]

simshell,

Against condensed, soft targets the Ki-67's payload, if you take the eight 100kg bombs, does nearly as much damage as a Lancaster with 14,000lbs of bombs.  The Lancaster achieves massive overkill.

At 20,000 to 22,000ft and at full throttle set the delay on the Ki-67 to .40 or .45,  If you are hitting a target that has one long path of targets, set the salvo to eight.  Against the city that I bombed the other night I set the salvo to four and hit two different sections.  In total I got about 15 to 20 buildings.

The other advantage the Ki-67 has is that it is fast and climbs very well for a bomber.  These both cut down on trip time by a lot.

With two 1,900hp engines the Ki-67 could have lifted a heck of a lot more, but the Army specifications were for an 800kg bombload and that is what Mitsubishi delivered.

I think the Japanese were a bit unclear on the usefulness of a heavy payload.  Only the G4M with a 1,000kg bombload and H8K2 with a 3,000kg bombload carried more than the Ki-67.  It seems that the Japanese standardized on the 800kg bombload, regardless of the type of bomber.

[streetstang]

FINNALLLLY!!!!!!