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« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2004, 05:05:46 PM »
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mz... a lot of the things you are voting for cost me money and I sure don't make a mill a year... I would vote that you alone pay for all of em if we have to have em tho.

lazs


Initally you'll save money with MT's picks cause passage of Prop. 66 will cut loose about 20,000 career criminals out of our prison system. Over time, tho, as they are rearrested and put back in prison it'll even out...except for the victims they'll leave in their wake.

I'd expect MT to vote on this, but Funky voted yes on 66 too... Maybe he was confused and thought it was about Crimes Against Nature.

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« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2004, 05:15:32 PM »
yep.... anyone who thinks a guy with three major felonies is just.... unlucky and a freespirt out to harm no one is terminally naive.

if he got busted for three felonies he is a career criminal.  

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« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2004, 05:19:21 PM »
I agree, the three strikes law is fine, do not want to go to jail stop braking the damn law.



Booo hoooo, so a guy who stole a bike got life.

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« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2004, 05:30:26 PM »
Wait a minute!

66 wasn't about baseball????????
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« Reply #34 on: November 02, 2004, 08:20:38 PM »
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Initally you'll save money with MT's picks cause passage of Prop. 66 will cut loose about 20,000 career criminals out of our prison system. Over time, tho, as they are rearrested and put back in prison it'll even out...except for the victims they'll leave in their wake.

I'd expect MT to vote on this, but Funky voted yes on 66 too... Maybe he was confused and thought it was about Crimes Against Nature.


I don't think non-violent felons should be getting life sentences.  There are too many bull**** non-crimes that are considered felonies in this country.

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« Reply #35 on: November 02, 2004, 08:21:58 PM »
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« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2004, 08:35:49 PM »
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I don't think non-violent felons should be getting life sentences.  There are too many bull**** non-crimes that are considered felonies in this country.


Funky, you don't show any opposition to the 3 strikes  law but rather to the felonies that count as strikes. Which felonies do you feel are unfairly considered strikes? Curious, cause the author of 66 has a son in prison on 3 strikes cause he was convicted of felony drunk driving with fatalities... his previous two strikes were for narcotics pedaling. Should he get another chance?

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« Reply #37 on: November 02, 2004, 08:42:23 PM »
Life sentence for selling chemicals or growing plants?  That's ridiculous.

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« Reply #38 on: November 03, 2004, 12:13:48 AM »
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Proposition 69 requires collection of DNA samples from:
adults and juveniles convicted of any felony offense
adults and juveniles convicted of any sex offense or arson offense, or an attempt to commit such an offense (not just felonies)
adults arrested for or charged with felony sex offenses, murder, or voluntary manslaughter (or the attempt to commit such offenses)
Additionally, starting in 2009:
adults arrested for or charged with any felony offense

:confused: Why not?


yall in for one rude awakening, when all of the facts of DNA sampling and matching comes out.

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« Reply #39 on: November 03, 2004, 01:41:38 AM »
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You voted against stem cell research and your argument was "it's not goverments business". Seems a little contradictory to me.

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« Reply #40 on: November 03, 2004, 03:33:24 AM »
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You voted against stem cell research and your argument was "it's not goverments business". Seems a little contradictory to me.


Contradictory?  What did I contradict?

I didn't vote against stem cell research.  If people want to do stem cell research, they should go ahead and do it.  But it is not the proper role of the State of California to pay billions of dollars to fund it.  That's what I voted against.  

Our State government is suffering a financial crisis.  Expenditures far exceed revenues.  State services are being cut in many areas.  Taxes are already so high that businesses (and thus jobs) are being driven out of the State.  If we are going to be raising billions of dollars by taking on bond debt, we should be spending the funds on more basic government services like our decaying transportation infrastructure, poor schools, etc.
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« Reply #41 on: November 03, 2004, 05:03:06 AM »
Ok, I didn't realise it was for the funding.

One question though, if other research gets gov funding, why stem cell research shouldn't?

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« Reply #42 on: November 03, 2004, 08:32:12 AM »
non should.... as funked pointed out... it is non of their business... they have no money to "give"  they earn nothing.   They only take.

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« Reply #43 on: November 03, 2004, 09:15:57 AM »
Virtually every cure for every disease we've ever discovered has had its seed money in federal research grants. If stem cell research didn't involve embryos the Feds would have funded its research long ago- what's keeping stem cell research down is this Administration's belief stem cells are human life. (shrug)

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« Reply #44 on: November 03, 2004, 10:15:35 AM »
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Ok, I didn't realise it was for the funding.

One question though, if other research gets gov funding, why stem cell research shouldn't?


What cracks me up is how most liberals see (for example) my paycheck that I have earned, as money DUE THEM and EXPECTED.

I don't even live in California but to EXPECT taxpayers to carry the load of programs that the businesses could easily subsidized, is just wrong.   I hope that in 2008 California will attract more votes on the Republican side.  When the "Democratic Supporters" realize that 401k holders (for example) want the benefits of Job shipping overseas for a "larger profit margin" this country will be better off.

I sincerely HOPE, that you realized what you wre voting on mora, it appears as some other low lying issues snuck past you.

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