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Offline Thrawn

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« Reply #45 on: April 18, 2004, 01:30:50 AM »
Have fun.  ;)

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« Reply #46 on: April 18, 2004, 03:07:55 AM »
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LMAO and you tell us which administration hasnt told us lie after lie after lie.


Well, I don't remember Truman lying much (althought I was pretty young then); I don't remember Eisenhower, Ford or Carter lying either although Ford and Carter may well have lied by selectively telling us the truth.

Right now, it appears we won't have much of a choice though. :)

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« Reply #47 on: April 18, 2004, 10:28:16 AM »
curly... your **** comment... did you actually say that less government would be better?   I agree if you did.

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« Reply #48 on: April 18, 2004, 11:55:16 AM »
does the AK stand for "Admire Kerry" Curly? :)
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« Reply #49 on: April 18, 2004, 01:13:11 PM »
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Well, I don't remember Truman lying much (althought I was pretty young then); I don't remember Eisenhower, Ford or Carter lying either although Ford and Carter may well have lied by selectively telling us the truth.
Welcome to the dawn of the internet.  I'll tell you one thing, we haven't been lied to nearly as much as the internet says we have.  Someone makes a statement, and 8 different sites pop up with different slants on how it's a "lie".  Time goes on, the lies usually don't pan out, but the person is still percieved as a liar... not the people that falsely reported the "lie".  I don't doubt the same would have happened with every single administration throughout U.S. history if the same reporting methods were used.

Sports got alot less fun to watch when people started over anylizing everything.  The same thing is happening in politics, but most seem to think this is a good thing.  I definately don't share that sentiment.

I've also noticed a change in belief as to why we elect someone.  It seems it used to be that we elected leaders that would best represent us.  Now, we elect leaders that we feel will do what we tell them.  It's almost as if the entire country has forgotten what a leader is... and why they just elect one person and not a committee.

I don't know... politics has become a sore subject for me too... but not necessarily because of any one side of the fence, and definately not because it's all the government's fault.

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« Reply #50 on: November 08, 2004, 09:11:30 AM »
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President Bush secretly ordered an Iraq war plan, says a new book by Bob Woodward.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush secretly ordered a war plan drawn up against Iraq less than two months after U.S. forces attacked Afghanistan and was so worried the decision would cause a furor he did not tell everyone on his national security team, says a new book on his Iraq policy.

Full article at
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/04/16/iraq.woodward.ap/index.html

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Here's news for you Curly.  Clinton secretly had a war plan to nuke North Korea.

http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20041107-055605-6954r.htm

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« Reply #51 on: November 08, 2004, 09:18:35 AM »
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Umm ... are you bored Rip?


No, just exposing hipocrasy.  Thats my job. :)

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« Reply #52 on: November 08, 2004, 09:18:35 AM »
Wow a 7 month old thread brought up from the gutter to add a post that clearly states if the country attacked South Korea.

Compared to, well... Iraq.
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« Reply #53 on: November 08, 2004, 09:22:04 AM »
No, what completely went over your head was...every president has "war plans" drawn up in advance, for sitution X happens, Y result will be employed.  Bush was not an exception to the rule in Iraq.

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« Reply #54 on: November 08, 2004, 09:30:52 AM »
Ahem, Here is a clue. A contingency plan for just about every conceivable conflict situation is drawn up by every administration. Particular hot spots such as the middle east are always top on the list since they are most likely to happen. This is standard planning at the strategic level. They are kept on file at the Pentagon and other appropriate strategic HQ's.

There were plans for reactions to a Soviet invasion at the Fulda Gap and other places in Europe. Contingency plans for all types of conflict in all areas (even France :rolleyes: ) are on file. All are reveiwed and updated as needed or as situations change. It is not preplanning for a preemptive strike, it is contingency planning.
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« Reply #55 on: November 08, 2004, 09:48:17 AM »
No, not really over my head Ripsnort.

Just observing those situations that would lead to war. One is justified, the other is questionable at best.
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« Reply #56 on: November 08, 2004, 10:09:10 AM »
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Yup, and completely ignore that Bush and crew have told lie after lie.  Keep that head in the sand -- you'll be more comfortable there. :)

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OK, let's nix the outright lies with Monica Lewinsky.  Tit for tat (no pun intended).  

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« Reply #57 on: November 08, 2004, 10:12:52 AM »
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Here's news for you Curly.  Clinton secretly had a war plan to nuke North Korea.

http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20041107-055605-6954r.htm


Was this before or after Clinton's selling of technology to the Chinese?  :rofl   You liberals never get tired of stepping from one bucket of ***** to the next.

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