Dinosaurs & Man?

[Vudak]

Originally posted by lazs2
would it be better to vote based on a movie/phony documentary or.... a rock concert?   maybe the word of sean penn or barbara stiesand?   Are you very much more comfortable with those voters?

Good God no!

Originally posted by lazs2
maybe sharpton has the answer or the naacp?    Vote based on a flier your union sends out?
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Same issue I'm pointing out, flipped side, good point.

Originally posted by lazs2
Is there some guidline that you find particularly useful.... None of us want to be "sad".
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Um...  Yes...  A self-derived opinion weighed against many sources.  I think this was a pretty good election to be torn over, I know I sat in the voting booth for awhile.  True, the candidates were like night and day, but also true, they each had a few decent ideas.

[lazs2]

is it possible (in your opinion) for a christian or any republican to make a choice based on your criteria or do they have to embrace the democrats first?   I'm sure no one wants a "sad" election.

lazs

[TheDudeDVant]

What the far left doesnt seem to get is the rest of the country and yes starting with the far right but including those in the middle does not want this liberal acceptance of everyone and everything Such as gay marriage, as an example crammed down their throats.

Who started the cramming?? Was it not the republican party with their idea of reform?? It was a non-issue until brought up by the compassionate conservatives. Lets remember who threw this up into the lime-lite..

they are sick of what they see on regular noncable TV and see continued lack of restraint in the media itself in a race for the all important ratings

'They' might be.. But it seems 'they' must be watching too. Whats the new Fox show?? Desperet House Wifes?

I heard a Democrat put it best on CNN yesterday when she said."what we need to realize is that we have been talking to ourselves and everyone else doesn't give a damn what we think anymore"

Not a good quote at all. All do respect but half the country was still there.. Just under the half that wasn't..

[Heiliger]

Originally posted by Vudak
Lazs & Ra:

Sorry if this came off as a Bush Bash.  I was actually trying to start a religious discussion.  

But don't call me a liberal.  Or a conservative.  I'm a moderate, and agree with both of you on some things, just not on others.

So anyway, back to the religious discussion.

LOL this isn't a religious discussion, this is a Christian bash thread, 'cause I'm pissed my candidate lost'.


You want to start a religious discussion?  Like to discuss Hamartiology?  Eschatology?  Soteriology?  Church history?  Any specific denomination?

Also don't clump every Christian together and steriotype them like you are.  You pointed out yourself that there are so many denominations - an FYI - they don't hold to the same doctrines (ex: DREDIOCK's post).

Shoot, Bob Graham?  Who the heck is Bob Graham?  

[lazs2]

I believe that people do give a damn and that the election was proof.

lazs

[ra]

Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
what are you talking about?? I guess you just like tossing the 'lib' word about?? this post make you feel stronger or better?? cuase it's clueless with the rest of the thread....

You are clueless.  Libs always try to blame losses at the ballot box as the result of ignorance.  This thread is just another example of it, pretending to be sophisticated and concerned for the human race.  If you really want to make fun of some religious some beliefs, check out what 800 million Hindus believe.  It doesn't prevent them from being intelligent and rational.  But U.S. libs aren't having any trouble with Hindus at the ballot box, so they blame their losses on Christians who pose more of a problem.  

The life we live of material comfort and political freedom was not the result of hundreds of years of atheist enlightenment.  In fact, atheists have a pretty poor track record when they get into power.

ra

[Vudak]

Originally posted by Heiliger
LOL this isn't a religious discussion, this is a Christian bash thread, 'cause I'm pissed my candidate lost'.

You want to start a religious discussion?  Like to discuss Hamartiology?  Eschatology?  Soteriology?  Church history?  Any specific denomination?

Oh boy can of worms I've opened...

Ok, so it is a Christian Bash thread then, if we must define it so  but not because "my" candidate lost.  Instead, because I'm honestly wondering how some people can honestly say that dinosaurs and people walked the earth!

That's what I want to discuss! Just the dinosaur thing! Please! I am now going to retitle this thread lol!

[lazs2]

yep... if people were just smarter they would vote with the neurotic apartment dwelling big city girls who think sex in the city is too witty for pig farmers to understand.

lazs

[Heiliger]

Originally posted by Vudak
Oh boy can of worms I've opened...

Ok, so it is a Christian Bash thread then, if we must define it so  but not because "my" candidate lost.  Instead, because I'm honestly wondering how some people can honestly say that dinosaurs and people walked the earth!

That's what I want to discuss! Just the dinosaur thing! Please! I am now going to retitle this thread lol!

Thank you!      

[Vudak]

Unfortunately, I can't retitle this thread, try as I might.

Ra:  True, religion does not prevent people from being intelligent.  However, I beg to differ to your idea that it does not prevent them from being rational.  

I think that website is good evidence that statement.

[Vudak]

Originally posted by Heiliger
Thank you!      

Lol, you're welcome

[ra]

Originally posted by Vudak
Unfortunately, I can't retitle this thread, try as I might.

Ra:  True, religion does not prevent people from being intelligent.  However, I beg to differ to your idea that it does not prevent them from being rational.  

I think that website is good evidence that statement.

What is your proposal:

- re-education camps
- disenfranchisement
- soylent green

You and I were born into a life of comfort and freedom.  We did not create this freedom, it was created by previous generations.  And those generations were largely religious, and largely Christian.  I cannot think of a RATIONAL reason to fear Christians.  

ra

[TheDudeDVant]

Originally posted by ra
You are clueless.  Libs always try to blame losses at the ballot box as the result of ignorance.  This thread is just another example of it, pretending to be sophisticated and concerned for the human race.  If you really want to make fun of some religious some beliefs, check out what 800 million Hindus believe.  It doesn't prevent them from being intelligent and rational.  But U.S. libs aren't having any trouble with Hindus at the ballot box, so they blame their losses on Christians who pose more of a problem.  

The life we live of material comfort and political freedom was not the result of hundreds of years of atheist enlightenment.  In fact, atheists have a pretty poor track record when they get into power.

ra

What a bunch of BS.. No one here blaming anyone for anything. These are questions of beliefs..  Nothing more.. Your a fool if you actually believe 'libs' or most any are not concerned for the human race.. Like you are more concerned?? wow!! how human of you..

If 800million hindus were americans, we might be questioning their beliefs as well, but as you and so many others are so quick to point out, they are not americans..

The life we live of material comfort and political freedom was certainly not hundreds of years of god enlightenment either.. Infact, christians have a pretty poor record with their values as well..

[TheDudeDVant]

Originally posted by ra
What is your proposal:

- re-education camps
- disenfranchisement
- soylent green

You and I were born into a life of comfort and freedom.  We did not create this freedom, it was created by previous generations.  And those generations were largely religious, and largely Christian.  I cannot think of a RATIONAL reason to fear Christians.  

ra

Really? Then you cant think past your own nose..

What if you were gay??

What if you were muslim??

What if you were baptist across from a church of christ?? lol

[Vudak]

Perhaps it was implied?  But I never meant that we should fear Christians so much as fear people who listen to their preacher, pastor, father, rabbi, cleric, monk, etc. to an extent where they are blinded to overwhelming scientific evidence.

I think that is a fairly legit point?

As far as the word "rational" goes, I meant "rational" in that it is not rational to still argue the world was created 6,000 years ago.

Soooooo, what 'bout dem dinosaurs ?