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Offline Otto

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« on: November 06, 2004, 09:55:19 PM »
..they're just creating more Terroist?   Why can't  they just 'reason' with these people?
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From the BBC.

Anti-French uproar in Ivory Coast
 
 
Angry anti-French demonstrators in Ivory Coast's main city, Abidjan, marched on the airport, within hours of it coming under French control.

French helicopters fired warning shots to try to stop the tens of thousands of government loyalists moving forward.

The furious reaction was sparked by the destruction of five Ivorian armed forces aircraft by the French military.

France had responded to an earlier Ivorian air attack on a rebel town that left nine French peacekeepers dead.

Paris has said it is sending more troops and aircraft to the region to stop the escalating violence.

The UN Security Council moved swiftly to back the French action, and called on all sides to stop the fighting.

Looting

Correspondents in Abidjan - Ivory Coast's economic capital in the south of the country - spoke of hearing loud explosions and heavy gunfire.

Red tracer bullets streaked across the night sky, Reuters news agency reported.

   
The BBC's James Copnall said a elicopter flew low over a bridge that splits the city, and fired warning shots as thousands of young men were trying to cross over.

Earlier, a French school and library were set alight and French property looted.

Rioters were seen brandishing axes, machetes and clubs as they roamed the streets shouting "French go home!" and "Everybody get your Frenchman!"

Explosions and heavy gunfire were also reportedly heard in the capital Yamoussoukro on Saturday evening.

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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2004, 11:03:09 PM »
Yeah, they're "rebels"; this is a "civil war".

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All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.

Article 2, Section 7:

Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter; but this principle shall not prejudice the application of enforcement measures under Chapter VII.
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2004, 12:08:16 AM »
EDIT:

Seriously this is a tragic loss.  The soldiers are people and not the govt.  They don't set policy they do what they're told.  There loss isn't something to be scoffed at and after posting I realized I don't want to sound like most of the euro weanies on this board that want to think Americans serving in Iraq are monsters.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2004, 04:42:26 AM »
Just amazing how flexible a charter is, isn't it?

Next thing you now alliances chartered as purely defensive will be launching offensive operations.

Interesting how relatively minor conflicts can threaten International Peace and Security while major genocides get ignored.

Just saying.
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2004, 04:53:10 AM »
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I have not read anything on this BBS that have given me the impression that they consider "Americans serving in Iraq are monsters". It is a grave misrepresentation and a lie. If you are serious then I challenge you to prove it. If "most of the euro weanies on this board" have such sentiments there should be ample proof for you to quote from.


Gunther I started my post with some french bashing then I layed in with some oil for food scandle stuff.  Then I related it all to Iraq and how things just don't allways work out and I hit "submit Reply"

At that second I knew I was wrong because I was politicising deaths of frenchmen who were there under orders trying to make a difference in somone elses lives.  A realization that alot on this board fail to conclude about the majority of America soldiers serving Iraq right now.  

You can't tell me that we Americans havn't been demonized for Iraq, if you do that'd be just ignorant of you.  What I hate is the fact that sometimes we are demonized for doing things that are necessary but at the same time providing a releif to an impoverished people that they have never seen before.  Yet we are still monsters to some.  

Yes my generalization of Euro weanies was wrong but I hope that YOU can see the point I was trying to make.

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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2004, 05:19:34 AM »
So you think it's the threat posed to the world's cocoa supply then?
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2004, 05:29:59 AM »
No Blood for Chocola... aw forget it....
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2004, 09:46:56 AM »
French citizens?  sounds like imperialism to me.  

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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2004, 11:52:45 AM »
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French citizens?  sounds like imperialism to me.  

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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2004, 02:45:54 PM »
Muckmaw1 what is you new disfunction ?

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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2004, 03:39:08 PM »
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Muckmaw1 what is you new disfunction ?


in this case, I think it's called a sense of humor?

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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2004, 03:51:30 PM »
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in this case, I think it's called a sense of humor?


The Ivory Coast is the world's top cocoa producer.
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2004, 04:27:07 PM »
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in this case, I think it's called a sense of humor?


Remind me to make some humour next time some US soldiers are killed or US civilians threatened .

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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2004, 04:56:40 PM »
thanks Iron, appologies Straffo.

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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2004, 05:01:20 PM »
No need to apologise Pugg ,I've no hard feeling toward you.