Author Topic: Gunslinger's wife needs some help (Read 1098 times)

eagl · « **Reply #30 on:** November 08, 2004, 02:16:19 PM »

Sheesh... Anyone challenging me with weapons on my or my parent's property would find themselves dead within 30 seconds after I got inside the house unless they started running the second I got through the door. When I'm living in the U.S., I keep my mini-14 with a 30 rd mag loaded with alternating softpoint and FMJ rounds and a wide FOV 4x scope in a secure location specifically for such purposes. The magazine for my hunting rifle (7mm mag) is likewise loaded with rounds suitable for elk (or most vehicles) and sighted in at 300 yards, but it's not quite as quickly available, and my .40 beretta is also at hand.

Call me paranoid if you like but nobody is going to run me off my or my family's property. I simply won't tolerate it under any circumstances. If they are stupid enough to wander around on my property with guns, they get one chance to drop their weapons and/or get out, then it's whack-a-mole time. Their mere presence on my property with a deadly weapon is assault so the shoot would be more than justified.

Illegal pot growers trying to take over my land would just ensure that I wouldn't feel any remorse about their demise. This is America, not Colombia.

GreenCloud · « **Reply #31 on:** November 08, 2004, 03:05:40 PM »

airhead..that is a dam shame..not all growers up north are like that...I would actually liek to tell my friend who live sup there about this..see if he can 'remove" theses types from your area

anyways,,,

Gunslinger..there is now ay in hell you can keep a tally on your tips in a busy bar...way too fast paced for that

againn..I think you got 2 options..

1) all bartenders satnd together and tell boss..you will not take "OUR" tips anymore...Have them do this before the shift..You never fire anyone till after the shift..especially if its the whole crew..

2) Contact the labor board...try to take notes on how much he has been skimming...how mnay days hes doen it..and any other detail you can gather..

Good Luck

BiGB
xoxo

Mini D · « **Reply #32 on:** November 08, 2004, 03:45:49 PM »

The owner is the only one that counts the drawer and he doesn't do it in the presence of the employee? That's a bit odd.

tapakeg · « **Reply #33 on:** November 08, 2004, 07:39:05 PM »

It is a case of not wanting to bite the hand that feeds.

They are making great money and don't want to rock the boat.

The best way is to do it annonomously and within the law. Find a legal represenative who speaks for all. A lawyer who threatens to go public with the incident might help. I'm sure the owner does not want his name or business in the newspaper.

The individual does not want to lose the tips, but standing together, I'm sure the owner does not want the entire staff to not to work at all. To have to hire and train a new staff would take a while.

Another way, EVERYONE on a Friday night tell the owner that he will not be touching the tips. He would not be able to be open for the busy weekend, a major loss for him. Sounds brave from this side I know. It would suck to be in that position.

I'm sure the owner does not realize that disgruntled employers will harm him more than what he is taking from the tips. Soon bottles and maybe cases will start disappearing from inventory, and less drinks will be rung up.

I worked with a guy on his last day who gave the bar away on a Saturday night. Not only did he give away drinks all night, he put it on a comp number of someone who had definitely done him wrong. Not saying it was right by any means, kinda funny to watch.

Tapakeg

rpm · « **Reply #34 on:** November 08, 2004, 11:26:28 PM »

The best way is to breach the subject is of a missing tip to management. A high roller that dropped a roll that didn't turn up on an other wise slow tip night. Put it in a way that you don't accuse the house of being involved. It would put them in the situation of having to investigate.

One of three things could happen. If they are really dirty they could falsely accuse one of the barbacks. If you keep a good eye you would be able to vouch for them and keep them from being fired. If they are it's a whole new can of worms.

The second is they would wise up and stop skimming. It could be explained as an isolated incident and it took care of it's self.

Third, and most likely, nothing will change and they will consider the the next hottie that applies for a job.

LePaul · « **Reply #35 on:** November 08, 2004, 11:47:39 PM »

I was a fulltime bartender for a local Ground Round back in the mid 90's. Every shift, I opened with a fresh drawer and since if I had someone else work with me thru the shift, we split the tips up to that point (we they left). Management never touched the tips, and it was up to us to report what we had in tips for the federal form thingy (Curval?). I think they automatically assumed 15% of your sales as tips but you certainly made more than that.

One easy fix would be to lock the tip jar, much like a small box comment cards go in, etc.

You're in an interesting legal paradox. If you report it, you might do more harm to yourself (herself) than good.

Try this, she must have friends who are bartenders at other establishments, ask them what they'd do.

It sounds pretty unprofessional for that boss to borrow into their tip jar. But if this guy is the d*ck you say he is, he may know they have no recourse.