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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« on: November 07, 2004, 12:34:05 PM »
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/07/ground.zero.suicide.ap/index.html

IMO one of the things you liberals have to adress in your party and your message before the next election is the hateful fatalist fanaticism that leads people to do this...

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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2004, 02:32:13 PM »
The democrat party tends to whip their supporters into a hysterical frenzy.  It's part of the appeal because sometimes it's FUN to be part of a frenzy.  Just ask sharks.  Fun.  Unfortunately the hysteria can lead to extreme depression when it's over, and that's not so fun.

The sad thing is that although people at his work apparently saw it coming, nobody stepped in to intervene.  Due to a spike in military member suicides, the USAF in Europe is currently starting up a program to try to make sure that even isolated people have a safety net of their peers.  It's different in the civilian world where people may not help a loner even if he's sending out strong signals that they're suicidal.

Then again, if someone really wants to make a statement by killing themselves, sooner or later they're going to succeed.  Suicide out of depression is a bit different than suicide to make a political statement.  IMHO, if your political views force you to kill yourself to make your point, go right ahead.  Just please be polite enough to not leave a big mess for others to clean up.  The problem is that it's not easy to know why someone is trying to kill themselves so we probably ought to try to intervene when possible.

Where was the intervention for this guy?
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2004, 02:39:55 PM »
hmmm,  Someone who would do this probably has more issues then just losing the election...

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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2004, 04:28:32 PM »
if a guy is going to lose it over politics, I'd prefer they do it with suicide.

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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2004, 05:13:58 PM »
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/07/ground.zero.suicide.ap/index.html

IMO one of the things you liberals have to adress in your party and your message before the next election is the hateful fatalist fanaticism that leads people to do this...

Hehe, so you're saying this guy offed himself because he was influenced by the Liberal message?  You don't think maybe he was just depressed / off-kilter instead?
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2004, 08:10:43 PM »
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/07/ground.zero.suicide.ap/index.html
Explain THIS, you stinkin' Liberals! WHAT is UP with your hateful fanaticism that causes you freaks to do THIS?



Uh... We only had one liberal off themselves over the election results, Bling Bling- had Kerry won there would have been scores of right wing nutburgers doing themselves in.

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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2004, 08:26:50 PM »
By all measures, a single suicide translates into an overwhelming Bush man date.

The fact that the suicide rate was so low following this election can be attributed to one of two things. Kerry failed to persuade the suicide block, or P Diddy's 'Turn out the Suicide' didn't materialize.  Or both.

"Vote and Die" just didn't produce as expected.

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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2004, 08:27:04 PM »
i think if someone wants to kill themself they should be allowed to, it's their life.

something i have never figured out, if christians say heaven is so great, why are they so afraid of death, why do they morn when someone dies , they should celabrate.

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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2004, 08:29:30 PM »
nah, the neo-cons would've been shooting someone else instead. ;)

they'd handle losing OK.

what they are having trouble handling is the dis-appointment they faced when  - in spite of Bush defeating Kerry and the hopes they had for this next term -  they awoke Wednesday morning to find they still had a very tiny noodle.

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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2004, 08:42:05 PM »
Should I do a search of  religious fanatics that have waved their hand of God while taking down scores of people in the name of God?

Poor taste, very poor taste.

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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2004, 10:04:25 PM »
Shame, Grun- Shame.:(

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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2004, 11:18:11 PM »
Shame what?

You guys and your propagandist surrogates like Micheal Moore fill the nation and especially target yiur consitiancies with the worst sort of fear mongering, destortions lies about Bush stealing the election, being evil, etc etc etc for years and years. And now you are what, surprised that some possibly unstable or vulnerable  person might have been too wound up in this BS hysteria and now hurt himself when the deliverance from this evil did not materilize?

Yea shame is the right word...

Unbelivebale arrogance from you guys.
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2004, 11:19:56 PM »
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Uh... We only had one liberal off themselves over the election results, Bling Bling- had Kerry won there would have been scores of right wing nutburgers doing themselves in.


Oh yea airhead, you're really mature here... Shame this shame that..  What a crock of bullchit you are sometimes (read: always) ...

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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2004, 11:35:16 PM »
Whoah.... Grun, pal...

Lets take it easy....

I think the same amount of people who took Moore's films fo real were about the same size as the folks who know how to spell apocolypse.

In a mere two sentences, you said:

propagandist

surrogates

fear mongering

destortions

lies

evil

vulnerable

hysteria

deliverance

Now... You know me, I think.... And I don't hold it against ya. But something in there tells me you need to check yerself.
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2004, 11:37:41 PM »
There are fanatics and lunatics at the extreme of each party.

"The mission of the Christian Coalition is simple," says Pat Robertson. It is "to mobilize Christians -- one precinct at a time, one community at a time -- until once again we are the head and not the tail, and at the top rather than the bottom of our political system." Robertson predicts that "the Christian Coalition will be the most powerful political force in America by the end of this decade." And, "We have enough votes to run this country...and when the people say, 'We've had enough,' we're going to take over!"

What would Pat Robertson's vision of America be if he and his fellow fundamentalists gained power? One vision of America might be found in Pat Robertson's view of Zambia. Zambian President Frederick Chiluba is a Robertson associate who, in 1991, officially declared the country a 'Christian nation,' and followed this up by changing some of the nation's laws to reflect the new Christian status. Robertson hailed this action while interviewing Chiluba during a taped segment that aired during the April 25, 1995, edition of 'The 700 Club' and lamented the fact that no such declaration can occur in the United States. "Your country is a standard for not only Africa but the rest of the world,' gushed Robertson.

Since Chiluba took office all public schools have become saturated with fundamentalist Christianity - Muslims and Hindus were told that they would have to build their own schools; state-run radio and television has been taken over by Christian fundamentalist religious programming; all abortion was outlawed - police shut down every clinic and many doctors and staffers were attacked and beaten; an anti-pornography crusade was launched, and fundamentalist ministers and missionaries were given license to work with the police to publicly burn any material deemed obscene. The country is now swarming with fundamentalist Christian missionaries, many of them affiliated with the radical Christian Reconstructionist movement...[which] Under their plan, the harsh legal code outlined in the Old Testament would be the basis for U.S. law."




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