Many jet crash ...

[straffo]

All RC fortunatly

http://www.hobbyclub.ru/video/krach.wmv


Anyone know the lyrics ?

Boroda can you ask for me on the http://www.hobbyclub.ru/

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

Rammstein, not sure on the song.
-SW

[Russian]

Originally posted by straffo
All RC fortunatly

http://www.hobbyclub.ru/video/krach.wmv


Anyone know the lyrics ?

Boroda can you ask for me on the http://www.hobbyclub.ru/

Music is probably by Rammstein.

[straffo]

thanks guys

the tittle ist : "Sonne"
(should have pay more attention to the lyrics )
I'm a  dork I've the CD

[Chairboy]

Very expensive crashes.  Looked like the same event location, wonder what the event was?  An awful lot of crashes, especially for jets.  I see jets fly all the time at the Apollo 11 field in LA, but never jet crashes.  Generally, if you spend the $$$$ on a turbine, you know what you're doing.

[Habu]

Probably the same problem with flying a high performance aircraft in real life.

If you pull to hard in a turn you stall the wing and the aircraft will flip over. The high performance wings on those model would have a very low tolerance for high G turns at the speed they are flying.

Once the wing stalls the inlet also gets less air the thrust is reduced just as the guy is trying to get full power on to recover, the plane is near the ground and cannot be controlled and bang.

At least no one gets hurt with models.

[Russian]

Originally posted by Chairboy
Very expensive crashes.  Looked like the same event location, wonder what the event was?  An awful lot of crashes, especially for jets.  I see jets fly all the time at the Apollo 11 field in LA, but never jet crashes.  Generally, if you spend the $$$$ on a turbine, you know what you're doing.

I agree, those guys should buy training models. One guy took off within ground effect(WTF?) then other did a 65deg turn into the ground. Fun to watch though

[AcId]

wow, newbie jet day lol

[Lizking]

"At least no one gets hurt with models."

I take it you didn't watch to the very end?  Those 2 mangled bodies on the tailgate of the truck?

[Habu]

lol

Yes it was a bad day for GI Joe and Barbie.

[Dinger]

Quite a few of those seem to be one-gear-up landings.
yeah, there were some classic idiot moves though.
Once he got that Viggen into a flat spin, it was over.

[straffo]

Wasn't it more a Vulcan ?

[Pongo]

wow they all looked like the same day same place..those turbine are 10 grand or somthing arnt they? Other then the gear probelms the v bomber just totaly stalled out. Several others lost it on a simple right turn...

[eagl]

The spin looked like a vulcan to me.  I think it wasn't an unrecoverable flat spin, but the pilot didn't let it fly out of the stall.  I suspect there may have been a CG issue since delta flying wings like that usually have a really huge stall margin and can remain flying at really high angles of attack.  Of course, if he stalled it and the wing blanked out the vertical tail, he's pretty much hosed until he reduces the AOA and lets it get some speed.  The deal there is that the nose would have to go nearly vertical nose down and he was pretty low to begin with, so that's probably why he kept trying to fly it out.  If you look closely at a few of the stall/spin crash ones, they actually stop the rotation once or twice but force it right back into the stall as evidenced by the planes tip-stalling (you can see the slight wing rock as the rotation stops then starts up again) and then re-entering the spin.  The relatively high wing loading on those planes, the scale dimensions, possibly bad center of gravity location, and improper control deflection setups (either too much or too little control authority) just aggravates it.

I've flown a number of RC models and I ended up staying away from actual scale models mainly due to stability issues.  Most true scale flying models are not very stable at these small sizes.  They often need a bit larger tail surfaces to fly well.  I plan on working my way up to jet models after I retire, and eventually my goal is to get either an F-18 or F-15 turbine flying.  I may cheat a bit and slightly increase the tail surface area just to help protect my investment though

[straffo]

After checking a bit the only think I'm sure is : it's a brit plane and a V Bomber

me too confused by cognac tonight