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Offline Captain Virgil Hilts

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« on: November 09, 2004, 11:19:33 PM »
I'm outta here. I'm taking 90 days, I'm keeping my subscription that long, if I'm not back by the end of 90 days, I'm not coming back. Too much frustration and not enough fun. I'm not flying well most of the time. Have fun.
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2004, 12:20:54 AM »
Virgil,

Gonna miss your posts.

Seems like you may have plateaued (if thats a word) but it may be that you're just about to make a breakthrough!

My latest essay: If you're not feeling challenged anymore then you need to be more aggressive to bring back the fun, but if your feeling frustrated (such as in  your case) you need a complete change of perspective that only another player can provide.

Watch some gun cams and try to emulate the style and feel of that pilot's view, and where he positions the bandit before shooting him down, even if its counterintuitive.  The diversity in tactics is more than expected. Yeah, its kind of a blow to the ego...but just wait 'till you adapt that style to your own and revel in the enjoyment and satisfaction of success. Plus it opens up a whole new realm of possible tactics to be explored.

All the best in whatever you choose.

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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2004, 12:23:43 AM »
Hang in there Savage.  Take some time to read some more 38 stuff and get back into the history more.

Maybe in 90 days there will be a good reason to get back in your 38 :)

Don't skip the boards though.  We can always use 38 experts

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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2004, 01:17:28 AM »
Too much frustration and not enough fun. I'm not flying well most of the time.


Ive caught a touch of this myself. Cant really put my finger on it, but Im not having a good time here for some reason.

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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2004, 06:30:43 AM »
I was there -- but I've found the cure that works for me!

1) I lightened up, deciding that I wasnt going to watch my kpd after every sortie and if i get vulched I'd say, "so what." AND I stopped doing anything jsut for points -- no more milk runs anytime, anywhere. Score chasing is just too frustrating.

2) I did just a couple DA sessions with people who agreed to give pointers afterwards. I didnt get any kills out of my 6-9 sorties, but we had some good fights and I learned some VERy good stuff. (thanks BLAUVER!)

3) I changed rides and fight styles. I had been an agresssive energy fighter preferring Dora and A5, but now I'm doing turn fighting. I'm riding a variety of Spits, messing with the Yak, trying new stuff (for me) like the jug and P38 (though i really stink in those).

4) I'm not a country partisan anymore. My squad left rooks for Nits, and I decided to stay put. I'm lone wolfing for now, but I freely switch to the country that looks like its having the best fights -- usually the outnumbered side. I'll eventually hook up with a squad, because I really miss the teamwork and camraderie, but for now I'm just enjoying the freedom.

And as a result I'm having a lot of fun.   :aok :aok
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2004, 07:23:42 AM »
Been there many times....but still sorry to see you go....

If your ball and chained to the 38:)...thats your problem (half joking). However, truthfully its not really a great ride for the MA as a primary fighter....doesnt mean it cant be flown well, just that it s fun meter runs out quickly and it becomes work...now the Ki-61 on the other hand is always fun:aok even if your being forced to work the underpowered little fella.

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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2004, 08:42:59 AM »
Humble, it ain't the plane, it's the pilot, and at times the atmosphere.

I find myself going on too many cold streaks where I can't do anything right, I can't shoot worth a damn, and I can't seem to fly at all. I'm either hot or cold, no in between and I can't figure out what I'm doing that sets me on a cold streak. I get a decent week or two out of a tour, than the slump sets in and I can't win a fight with a C-47, and it lasts for at least a week or two.

Then there's something I've been noticing a lot more lately. The general attitude of a lot of the players is a joke.

Too many times I will work an enemy down and get him into position, and have a "friendly" zoom past an enemy that is behind me and gaining a little position to "steal the kill" and leave me with an enemy they could have killed, but I'm now at a disadvantage to. Then there's the "friendlies" who will drive an enemy down into you and just break off when the enemy doesn't seem to be as easy a kill anymore. I guess I'm just too stupid to play that way, but I ALWAYS try to get the enemy off of a friendly's tail as an absolute priority. I may zoom in and finish an enemy, but if I do, you can be sure I won't have left another enemy on that friendly's tail with a firing solution, or even an advantage. If a friendly is in trouble, I'll either clear him or die trying.

Anyway, although I have a few complaints with the game, the problem is me. I'll keep my account open for a while, but after another really bad night last night, I tossed my stick on the floor and kicked it into the trash can. I'm not buying another stick for a while. If I haven't decided to get another stick by February, I'll just close my account and leave.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2004, 08:46:54 AM by Captain Virgil Hilts »
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2004, 09:39:36 AM »
hehe...

Got two broken sticks in the closet...BTW JB weld works wonders...repaired my X36 a dozen times or more (my wife just busts a gut listening to me @#$#% away). Finally bought an X-45 is a bit better "Armoured" then the X-36 it replaced.

I've flown for 10+ years now (a good bit in your current squad) and you'll go thru streaks. Truthfully the biggest reason I didnt consider asking to rejoin 327th was decision to not stay rook...lot of great guys and great "teamwork" but its the horde mentality at its worst. What you describe is much more common as a rook then in either other "side". Alot of what your describing is also very much plane related. The 38 is alot more "enviornment" driven then some others. A 38 thats expended both energy and "position" to gain an edge...and then is disenfranchised by a"friendly" is in a tough spot...but it'll happen everywhere.

Messing with my lala yesterday morning and came on a fellow niggit caught in a 1 on 2 on the deck...came in and cleared him and started in on one of the cons (tiffie and 109)...he was primarily flying a "flat fight and I kept breaking of the tiffie to the 109 and back giving him vox info etc...finally decide to take out the 109 since he's the better more aggresive pilot...break the tiffie off him saddle up on the 109 and take him out only to have the tiffie drill me...with this guy sitting ~600 behind the tiffie with no 6 call...used me to set up a plane form shot on tiffie.

Happened to catch two spitties on the way out (next hop) so I dragged em to him and let em have him:aok

It all goes around....

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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2004, 09:39:38 AM »
Yup I was there too... I seem to go back there every now and again.  I have streaks where I have no fear, can just fly straight into a battle and know I'll be fine and end up coming out with kills.  Then there are times where I feel like I'm doing everything right and get knocked out of the fight faster than a fat kid at a dodgeball game.  

Freaked my wife out about 2 weeks ago... she was sitting in the room with me when I was flying my a5.  I came up against a spit, we merged, I rolled under his HO attempt, reversed on him, missed a perfect snapshot on him (you know the ones where the tracers go all around the plane, you can't figure out how you could possibly miss because it was that perfect?) only to be stupid and slow down and get suckered into that slow turnfight because I wanted another chance at that shot.  Needless to say, I got killed, and the guy that did it was an inexperienced pilot.  My God, you never heard such 4 letter words... my wife looked like she saw a ghost.  

Anyway, I don't think I've flown with you in the game, but enjoy your posts on the BBS... take some time off.. this game is like crack, there is no quitting cold turkey  :D

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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2004, 12:47:58 PM »
Are you sure its you and the LagWare?  My hit % for example is usualy a terible 5% to 8%.  Since this map came up I am at 3% with planes flying throught tracers, and others exploding when I clearly did not have a shot at them but pulled the triger anyway.
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2004, 12:51:42 PM »
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
I find myself going on too many cold streaks where I can't do anything right, I can't shoot worth a damn, and I can't seem to fly at all. I'm either hot or cold, no in between and I can't figure out what I'm doing that sets me on a cold streak. I get a decent week or two out of a tour, than the slump sets in and I can't win a fight with a C-47, and it lasts for at least a week or two.
dude thats been me for the last 2 years LOL

try changing your flight style. take the p40 and go head long into a furball, or zoom on the dect to an enemy base, pop up and see who tries to get you. if you get a kill or 2 be proud you survived the 3-1 or whatever for a while.



anyway thats just a thought. sir and hope yas come back.
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2004, 12:52:36 PM »
Savage,
take a breather, enjoy the autumn air and eat some sweet potatoe pie! :D
We will be here when you have filled up on relaxtion!




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Messing with my lala yesterday morning and came on a fellow niggit caught in a 1 on 2 on the deck...came in and cleared him and started in on one of the cons (tiffie and 109)...he was primarily flying a "flat fight and I kept breaking of the tiffie to the 109 and back giving him vox info etc...finally decide to take out the 109 since he's the better more aggresive pilot...break the tiffie off him saddle up on the 109 and take him out only to have the tiffie drill me...with this guy sitting ~600 behind the tiffie with no 6 call...used me to set up a plane form shot on tiffie.

Happened to catch two spitties on the way out (next hop) so I dragged em to him and let em have him:aok

It all goes around....


this description sums up to about 90/95% of the way countrymen/ supposedly team mates ( everyone in a particular country is a team mate f one another for you all are flying for the same side ) treat each other...........

this will not change for it has crept its way into the everyday mayhem of the MA and any other arena outside of the TA or SEA.............

would be awesome if HTC split this place up and have an arcade or allmighty point monger arena ( something like RR in AW ) and then have a Top Notch arena ( sort of like FR in AW ) where people actually looked out for one another regardless if you was a squad mate or a countrymen........be nice to get back to having great fights, respect anothers fight, quit the score/kill whoring dweebs!

some of you flyers from past are still present and know what I am trying to explain here.  alot of us come from different sims and different ideas of what is appropriate..etc...this is why there is so much differentualitys in the MA and why you always here complaining! just my thoughts.... :cool:
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2004, 01:00:07 PM »
Savage for a break from the MA arena play you might want to try out Friday Night Squad Ops in the SEA. Its a very different style of play when you have 1 life period.

Lots of team work and achieving your assigned objectives is the crux of the events not just killing for killing's sake.

If interested drop me a line and I could hook you up with a squad to fly with (its a squad based event .. but only in that groups have to be formed into squads and don't even have to be apart of the same squad in the MA .. Nightmares squad for Squad Ops has several from different squads).

But overall I find it very nice and refreshing change of pace from the MA.
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2004, 01:11:33 PM »
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Savage for a break from the MA arena play you might want to try out Friday Night Squad Ops in the SEA. Its a very different style of play when you have 1 life period.

Lots of team work and achieving your assigned objectives is the crux of the events not just killing for killing's sake.

If interested drop me a line and I could hook you up with a squad to fly with (its a squad based event .. but only in that groups have to be formed into squads and don't even have to be apart of the same squad in the MA .. Nightmares squad for Squad Ops has several from different squads).

But overall I find it very nice and refreshing change of pace from the MA.


I've been flying it since I joined the AK's....what a great great event. If I haven't said it before...thanks to all for the time and effort spent to make it such a success....:aok :aok :aok

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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2004, 01:31:02 PM »
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this description sums up to about 90/95% of the way countrymen/ supposedly team mates ( everyone in a particular country is a team mate f one another for you all are flying for the same side ) treat each other...........

this will not change for it has crept its way into the everyday mayhem of the MA and any other arena outside of the TA or SEA.............

would be awesome if HTC split this place up and have an arcade or allmighty point monger arena ( something like RR in AW ) and then have a Top Notch arena ( sort of like FR in AW ) where people actually looked out for one another regardless if you was a squad mate or a countrymen........be nice to get back to having great fights, respect anothers fight, quit the score/kill whoring dweebs!

some of you flyers from past are still present and know what I am trying to explain here.  alot of us come from different sims and different ideas of what is appropriate..etc...this is why there is so much differentualitys in the MA and why you always here complaining! just my thoughts.... :cool:


I think you are exactly right TC.  I really think HTC should be pushing hard with some kind of more aggressive program than what little is in place now to get new people into the TA.  Not forcing them, no, but at least encouraging.  They learn so much more than how to start up a plane and pull the trigger from you guys who give up your time to Train.  I'm also convinced that getting more people interested in flying scenarios, along with the other special events like squad ops/KOTH/snapshots, etc fosters much more of a sense of community and crosses squad boundaries.  Besides all that, it helps in situations like this where guys get burned out on the MA mentality to have totally different stuff to try and to fly for awhile.