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Offline Shane

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« Reply #75 on: November 15, 2004, 05:13:15 PM »
yeah leave ch 1 off...  less confusion for people who do wander in from the MA typing on ch200 and getting no response.

and like in the MA, the CT ch200 is entirely voluntary and the same tools exist for tuning out what one doesn't want to see.

personally i always sq ch 1 in the MA (and now CT) because i have no interest in seeing faux 's.
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« Reply #76 on: November 15, 2004, 05:14:08 PM »
Humble - responses inside

CT stands for Combat Theater if I'm not mistaken. Combat here really means air combat in my mind. Your using historically correct plane sets and maps (as much as possible) to facilitate a "higher" level of immersion and game play....great theory...

Correct. But sometimes in includes vehicle combat.

what you have as a rule is a small group of players who often abuse and undermine your goals...tell me how often is the CT porked and needs to be reset???
We recently found a couple of settings that could impact the arena by causing resets. The staff is now aware of these settings and have noted it for future setups. If all the bases are captured, only THEN will it cause a reset.  Most new maps have bases off-map making it impossible to reset the map (as in the current one).

When you have 22 players logged on and 10 if not all 12 are basically in a single horde you have a situation as bad or worse as anything in the MA. When "new blood" shows up its invariably gangbanged and insulted...thats not coming from me...you can find numerous posts that illustrate that here. Currently CT numbers are usually 3-5% of total logged on players at best....theres a reason for it. Now, to me this is a relatively new situation (meaning 12 to 18 months)....the CT used to be a blast to fly in and a great place to learn. Based on what I saw the last few times I logged in its not anymore...
Insulted as in channel 1? See my last post. It's turned off. You gotta want to hear the chatter on 200 now to experience that.  Still, abusive behaviour is not tolerated at HTC.

As far as I'm concerned the Admins do a great job, and I have a tremendous amount of respect for some of the individuals who fly the CT. The problem lies both in numbers and attitude. Greater numbers will help create better game play...simply by eliminating the easy gangbang BS thats prevelent (again just read previous posts). As for attitude obviously I guess this is now the accepted norm...
That's an opinion humble, not a fact.  Truth is, if you want great numbers in historical settings, then the SEA events might be something for you to try. But honestly, in this setup, 20-30% of my enagements are 1 vs 1.  That's 99.999999% more than I can find in the MA.

I have no clue how any of the admins can address the issue...but I'll bet you dollars to donuts they take a hard look at the CT once TOD comes out....
We listen, we discuss, and we propose solutions to address the majority, not the vocal minority, but sometimes, those who ask do speak to the general.  Engagement is sometimes a double edge sword.  Especially for a VOLUNTEER STAFF. Right guys?

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« Reply #77 on: November 15, 2004, 05:21:29 PM »
I like channel 1 being turned off, I have yet tuned in 200.

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« Reply #78 on: November 15, 2004, 07:00:00 PM »
Mister Fork....

Thanks for the detailed response...

1st) I recognize the "combined arms" nature of the game....yes your right. I was refering more to the pork/digital dirt grabbing aspect of things. To me the infrastructure supports the game play....why pork the arena or corner 1 side with so few players??

2nd) I was actually referring to the BBS....every post regarding the overall atmosphere in the CT here is met with curses and verbal abuse. As for the stuff on "CH1/200" it mirrors what you see here...

3rd) Just started flying TOD since I joined the AK's....absolutley great stuff...how many CTers fly TOD??? As for the type of engagement....mine mirrors what others have posted...a bunch of semi skilled alt monkees flying in gaggles. Does that mean thats the norm...maybe not. Obviously as we've discussed there are a number of quality sticks who spend time in the CT. I often have great 1 on 1 fights in the MA (and of course I get {and occasionally} gangbang(d). All in all I find the overall game play in the MA to be light years ahead of the CT (sadly).

4th) As I stated in the original posts I have nothing but respect for the CT admins...its a thankless job.

In closing I think I represent the vocal majority and the current player base is really the minority (thats why you have ~3% #'s). Lots of folks have said what I did hear....they get insulted & ridiculed and walk away. As I stated I'm not sure where the answer lies, but something needs to give for the CT to grow again.

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« Reply #79 on: November 15, 2004, 07:02:21 PM »
Star come spend a bit of time with the AK's in the MA....you'd be suprised.

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« Reply #80 on: November 15, 2004, 11:35:19 PM »
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
On the channel 1 guys (Grits/Bear et all):  me, myself and I, Fork, Forkster, Mr. Fork, the big pie grabber,  yours truely, the man himself, disabled channel 1 recently


I have no problem with channel 1 being off or on, but it should STAY off or on, not switch back and forth every week, or worse at a whim. I agree with your reasons for turning it off also, but lets get the CT Staff together on this and leave it one way or the other.

I cant remember the last time anyone was rude or talked trash to me but I see it happen to others on almost a nightly basis. Then again, maybe I get insulted as much as everyone else and I just ignore it. All I do is fly to the nearest red dot and try to kill/die. I think if folks spent half as much time trying to kill the red guys as they do talking trash on channel 1/200 we wouldnt be discussing all this nonsense.

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« Reply #81 on: November 16, 2004, 10:53:51 AM »
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I cant remember the last time anyone was rude or talked trash to me


Grits your "a prime candidate for natural de-selection."



























I didn't want you to feel left out....  
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« Reply #82 on: November 16, 2004, 11:04:53 AM »
.squelch soda72
















See, wasnt that easy? :D

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« Reply #83 on: November 16, 2004, 11:06:37 AM »
drats  foiled again.... :mad:



























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« Reply #84 on: November 19, 2004, 10:58:52 AM »
Well, can an "old man" put in his two cents?  Yep there are a few in CT that in my book spent too much time bragging about their skills eyc. You know who you are. As most know, I am not a fighter jock so perhaps I come with a different view. But.. IMHO, Ct very much needs some new maps. This last one gets old after a little while.  As a Bomber guy, It gets pretty boring  flying to the same few spots worth bombing.
I will agree with those who say get rid of the perk points and rank. It is not needed in CT. Ranking causes problems when it comes to those with big mouths. BTW.. I will stand up for Storch.. He has never bad mouthed me and has always been a fun fight.I am like Oldman, in that I may return occaisionally to CT, but til it gets it's act together I go and play in the MA. Thanks fr reading this.

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« Reply #85 on: November 19, 2004, 11:22:19 AM »
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I am like Oldman, in that I may return occaisionally to CT, but til it gets it's act together I go and play in the MA.

Heh heh.  Shac, fellow old dude, you should read the posts just a bit more closely.  Oldman rarely ventures away from the CT.  Humble is your perp here.

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« Reply #86 on: November 19, 2004, 11:28:23 AM »
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Ranking causes problems when it comes to those with big mouths. BTW.. I will stand up for Storch.. He has never bad mouthed me and has always been a fun fight.


I can insert about a half a dozen comments here.  I'm restraining myself.  With difficulty.  

AAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhh heck with it, I cant resist.  Must...... find ........ new thread .................

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« Reply #87 on: November 19, 2004, 11:36:45 AM »
Humble is your perp here.


Me......

What did I do.....?:D

The bottom line to me is simple....for a long time the CT was a great place to find "quality" fights. From my perspective it slowly devolved to a point it was no better than the MA....and somehow has devolved to a point where it's even below the MA at times (if thats possible). I'd love to see it come back, maybe it can happen while retaining the current structure...maybe not.

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« Reply #88 on: November 19, 2004, 11:49:10 AM »
HEy "Oldman"... what do you expect from an old geezer like me.:) Sorry about that. Must say that I rarely see you elsewhere. Happy hunting

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« Reply #89 on: November 19, 2004, 12:46:51 PM »
Piffle. :D