Chirac Comments....

[straffo]

Originally posted by Neubob
No offense, straffo, but why do you keep responding then?

I still don't have a definite answer to this question ... certainly because I'm a bit stupid and agressive.

[Muckmaw1]

Originally posted by straffo
I still don't have a definite answer to this question ... certainly because I'm a bit stupid and agressive.

All the french bashing aside, Straffo.

Chirac is not helping heal any wounds here.


If anything, he is making it worse.

When does he come up for re-election?

[straffo]

Right IMO chirac should put some "water in his wine" (in fact I think both of our representant should do that)

If you look at the average French citizen (I can't speak for the average American) we all new we have a debt to the USA and all the young guys that have lost their lives for us.
and lot of didn't hate the American or the USA (a contrario to some media say)

But we are a lot thinking that the US gone astray concerning Iraq.


For the élections I think it's in 2007 I only voted for him only be cause the alternative was pretty horrible.

Look at the score for the elections :

Élection 1965 : Charles de Gaulle avec 55,2%
Élection 1969 : Georges Pompidou avec 58,2%
Élection 1974 : Valéry Giscard d'Estaing avec 50,8%
Élection 1981 : François Mitterrand avec 51,8%
Élection 1988 : François Mitterrand avec 54,0%
Élection 1995 : Jacques Chirac avec 52,6%

Élection 2002 : Jacques Chirac avec 82,1%

Chirac didn't get 30 point more because he was a good president he got this points because the French didn't wanted to have a Hitler wanabe as president.

IMO he will loose the 2007 elections (if he is candidate)

[lazs2]

so dowding... you agreed with what was done in afganistan and feel that the world all put in an equal effort in obtaining the goal there?

You feel that we should just walk away from the region now and all will be well?   It is your world view that I find..... convienient.... to say the least.

if everythiong turns out well in iraq then you will be all for the efforst of blair and Bush and all the other countries fighting there?   maybe you will point out that france and russia and germany didn't join because of all the food for oil and weapons scams they had going?


lazs

[Steve]

Steve : dohhh, like I care of the opinion of someone more than 5000km from me.

If you didn't care about my opinion, you wouldn't scream and stomp your feet every time someone bashes your POS, worthless, corrupt Government.  Psssst Chirac is a clown... and that's his good side.

[Habu]

The crime is not that Chirac is causing the US to hate all things French.

The crime is that everyday French people are not speaking up and saying they like the US and they disagree with Chirac.

And their silence is speaking loudly.

[SLO]

Originally posted by Habu
If you buy French you are only supporting the French economy.

And here I though it was to enjoy fine wine and delicious food...

question is "What do the Brits think"...its a Europian problem man, nothing to do with us...

here's my problem...

I agree that Saddam had to go, I don't agree in the path that  Pres. Bush took to achieve that goal...so did alot of other folks, nevermind national colors

I wanted to see Saddam with a bullet hole tween the eye's man, not see you invade that country...

I feel ashamed in a fashion that we as neighbors and friends choose not to help you in this venture, but at the same time our value's differ somewhat...lets just say Bush's idea's are a little too radical for some of us

Chirac and Bush and all others are playing into Political agenda's
people create for them, I for one will not base my perceptions on the French by what its POLITICAL leaders say...

I trust Straffo more then I do his Pres.

so mon cousin, comment ca va?

[Elfie]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
There was a Frenchman, an Englishman and Claudia Schiffer sitting together travelling in a carriage on a train.  The train went through a tunnel and as it was an old style train, there were no lights in the carriages and it went completely dark.

Then there was a kissing noise and the sound of a really loud slap.

When the train came out of the tunnel, Claudia Schiffer and the Englishman were sitting as if nothing had happened and the Frenchman had his hand against his face as if he had been slapped there.

The Frenchman was thinking: 'The English fella must have kissed Claudia Schiffer and she missed him and slapped me instead.'

Claudia Schiffer was thinking: 'The French fella must have tried to kiss me and actually kissed the Englishman and got slapped for it.'

The Englishman was thinking: 'This is great. The next time the train goes through a tunnel I'll make another kissing noise and slap that French bastard again.'

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Staga
Don't worry Lazs; with EU-Army (mainly a French-German-British army now) Nato will lose its power and soon you can pack your gears and move out from Europe.
Of course it's even more harder for you to find friends but who cares  

and inside 10 years you will probably all be at war with one another...again

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Spooky
Gunship Gazelles (20mm guns) and paratroopers made mincemeat of every airworthy aircraft in the Ivory Coast air force recently.

Guess they were flying straight this time!
 

and kudos to the French Unicorn taskforce, they controlled angry mobs by throwing stun grenades from helicopters, instead of lobbing 500 pounders on them...

Oh real topnotch force they were going up against too Im sure.

They probably could have done an equally good job had they used WWI biplanes.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Blue2
These boards are full of biggoted stupid crap!

Yea.
and your point is?

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by straffo


 I only voted for him only be cause the alternative was pretty horrible.

Ahhh Now possibly you can understand why so many of us decided to vote for Bush over Kerry.

Granted Bush is no gem either we just didnt see kerry as a better choice.
fact of the matter is neither are really loved by many cept the party loyalists

I just the other day saw a recent report on a poll that showed that 70% of the people that voted for kerry didnt do so because they liked Kerry but because they  were making a vote against Bush
 While that certainly is ALOT of votes against Bush
If thats true that means only 30% of the people that voted for Kerry either liked him beleived in his policies  or were party loyalists.


Speaking only for myself I Wanted someone to come along that was better then Bush But Kerry in my view didnt stack up and meet the requirements on a single issue that was important to me that might have made me vote for him.
There were also charactor flaws I saw that left me less then impressed and often annoyed.

Sadly Unless the Reps come up with a wayyy to the middle candidate in 08
By default I will probably vote Democrat


Unless Hillary runs in which case I may abstain out of disgust

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by SLO
And here I though it was to enjoy fine wine and delicious food...

question is "What do the Brits think"...its a Europian problem man, nothing to do with us...

here's my problem...

I agree that Saddam had to go, I don't agree in the path that  Pres. Bush took to achieve that goal...so did alot of other folks, nevermind national colors

I wanted to see Saddam with a bullet hole tween the eye's man, not see you invade that country...

I feel ashamed in a fashion that we as neighbors and friends choose not to help you in this venture, but at the same time our value's differ somewhat...lets just say Bush's idea's are a little too radical for some of us

Chirac and Bush and all others are playing into Political agenda's
people create for them, I for one will not base my perceptions on the French by what its POLITICAL leaders say...

I trust Straffo more then I do his Pres.

so mon cousin, comment ca va?

See now I can respect that arguement and line of reasoning.
Certainly beats any of the arguements I've seen so far.

The only poroblem with putting a bullet in Saddams head was the people that would have succeeded him(either of his sons) wouldnt have been any better

It sure would have been easier but Im not sure it would have had the desired effect
  May have been a radicle idea but I honestly didnt see any other way.
My view was and is Iraq was a situation that was going to have to be dealt with definitively sooner or later.
Later made it potentially a far far far more dangerous situation IMO. for everyone, including France Germany Russia and the region as a whole
 I cant blame any nation that doesnt want to send her men to war.
But I think that not just that but the way we were stonewalled along the way did far more harm to international relations then anything.
 We would have loved to have the support of the countries in question in this indeavor.
Had we gotten even the smallest support, without sending troops, logistics,transport or even just a nod or an abstention as Russia did in GWI there wouldnt be this animosity now.

[Holden McGroin]

Actually there are three types of people in this thread.  Those who can count, and those who can't.

[TweetyBird]

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Originally posted by Blue2
These boards are full of biggoted stupid crap!
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Yea.
and your point is?

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I agree 100%

There is a very vocal minority of thuggish bigots that post here.
But thats all over the internet. You'll find that some of the biggest bullies on the internet are just acting out (some because of infirmities).