Ok Habu, this is worth risking the ban...

[beet1e]

Yes, translators cannot translate idioms. Clearly "Réveillé du pied gauche" is the French equivalent of the English expression "got out of the wrong side of bed", meaning started the day in a bad mood.

I learned French at school, then again in private tuition French lessons (No, not the kind of French lessons you see advertised in the phone kiosks outside Paddington station). And while this provided a good grounding (verbs and grammar) the only way to learn a language is to go to a country where they speak that language.

Otherwise, one sounds like an American gun nut who has Google-ised himself full of British gun control facts, and then purports to know what life is like in Britain. Translators cannot handle idioms (yet) just as Google cannot be used as a window on life in another country.

[lasersailor184]

Wow, this got derailed really quick.

[AWMac]

Originally posted by Hawklore
I can't belive such fuss was started over my thread about helmets...

It turned into a bash ,after I asked it not to...

Off Topic!  Move along.

[Blue2]

That most people here have a relatively ok grasp of history. just differing views.

In response to the post that started this thread, I think what we are seeing is a bit of a backlash. Unfortunately much of hollywoods output, and the general attitude that the rest of us have to bow down and thank the USA every time the War is mentioned  has given some of the younger generation the hump. No one is disputing that USA contributed greatly, its just that they did not win the war for us as we have so often been told. We were in it together, and Yes europe was in it longer and proportionaly suffered much more.

Lets stop telling the world that it owes the US and this backlash might stop.

[Furball]

sorry, not posted with any intent. just couldnt resist

[Blue2]

Oh god help us!

[Furball]

i would say it is BGBMAW in that picture, but there are too few spelling mistakes.

[GreenCloud]

sniff..sniff..i cant take the personal attcks anymore..

sniff..sniffle

You know..you guys dotn get moderated when you attack me...


But..so Skuzzy came for me.....but ..Yoiu guys didnt care ..becuase it wasnt you....


Skuzzy came for furball......but you gusy didnt care ..becuase it wasnt you..


Skuzzy came for ...welllsomthn like that...


SAVE ME....my fweeelings are hurt!!!


RAINBOW WARRIORS!!!!


Love
BiGB
xoxo

[deSelys]

I wonder if there already exists a statistical study about the correlation between poor spelling and mullet?

Pulitzer price material IMHO.

[Thrawn]

LOL

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Hawklore
I can't belive such fuss was started over my thread about helmets...

It turned into a bash ,after I asked it not to...

  That is absolutely the best way to get a bashathon going.

[Excel1]

Originally posted by Blue2
That most people here have a relatively ok grasp of history. just differing views.

In response to the post that started this thread, I think what we are seeing is a bit of a backlash. Unfortunately much of hollywoods output, and the general attitude that the rest of us have to bow down and thank the USA every time the War is mentioned  has given some of the younger generation the hump. No one is disputing that USA contributed greatly, its just that they did not win the war for us as we have so often been told. We were in it together, and Yes europe was in it longer and proportionaly suffered much more.

Lets stop telling the world that it owes the US and this backlash might stop.

Those are lame reasons you give for not wanting to give credit where credit is due, in regards to the United States impact on the war. To say the US contributed greatly is a big understatement, it was the major differance between victory and defeat. If some Euros have a problem acknowledging that, then I think the reasons might run deeper than them just getting the "hump" over hollywood entertainment or the possible few Americans who actually think the US won the war singlehanded.

Excel

[SLO]

Originally posted by Excel1
Those are lame reasons you give for not wanting to give credit where credit is due, in regards to the United States impact on the war. To say the US contributed greatly is a big understatement, it was the major differance between victory and defeat. If some Euros have a problem acknowledging that, then I think the reasons might run deeper than them just getting the "hump" over hollywood entertainment or the possible few Americans who actually think the US won the war singlehanded.

Excel

1 word....


ARROGANCE

[beet1e]

As you know, I enjoy yanking yanks' chains on this board.

But I do concede that we could not have won WW2 without them. A quiz question I once heard was "who was the first country to declare war on Japan after Pearl Harbor?" The unconfirmed answer I heard was Britain! - Because Churchill was desperate for America to weigh in on the British side, and decided to make sure they did!

I think what irks some people (certainly myself and possibly guys like Blue2) is arrogant yanks who use the US involvement in WW2 as a means of crowing that their country is better than anywhere else (not true). Their crowing is doubly annoying given the fact that they almost certainly have not been outside the US (the ones who have do not see the need for crowing of this kind) and the fact that they personally had sweet naff all to do with the progress and outcome of WW2, despite the fact that they'd like to think that they did.

[Furball]

my view is...

USA didnt save us, we saved ourselves.  We wouldn't have lost the war without US help, but i couldn't see us winning it alone either.

The Soviets could have won it though, so i believe the outcome would have been the same.  It just would have taken a lot longer.

The war in the Pacific is where the credit really should go to the US, they virtually did that on their own, so kudos to the Yanks.