Pistons vs Pacers

[schizer]

Originally posted by Airhead
Call Skuzzy and complain then, schizer. You know "Thug Life" is a Rap (aka African American) term and you used it in the context of "Look at these typical n*****s, beating up fans."

You used it to be descriptive of their race- and if you can't get beyond the racial aspect of this sort of thing then that makes you a racist.

(shrug) No big deal, probably about 80% of white America is racist, but 90% of black Americans are racist too so I guess it's OK to use terms like "thug life" or "bling bling gangsta rapper wannabees" when making reference to black atheletes. Then if you're called on it you can claim "thug life" is simply a hep sort of youthspeak, and has nothing to do with race... of course I'd respect you more if you told the truth, but hey, whatever.

No doubt 80% of the posters here would agree that you aren't racist tho, so I guess you're in good company.

You truely are a moron....In case you want some history on the term, it was coined by the late 2pac and in an interview he described thug life as

"The Hate You Gave Little Infants f**ks Everybody, meaning, what you feed us as seeds, grows, and blows up in your face, thats Thug Life."


that was the exact quote from Pac himself.


It is the African American community themselves who have popularized the term and twisted 2Pacs definition of the word he coined. The term is not descriptive of a race it is descriptive of a lifestyle.  Thug Life has evolved into money, hoes, the bling bling cars, guns, you know general "gangsta" crap.  Call me racist if you want, hell throw all the labels around you want, you seem to be a master at that, almost everyone of your threads has to have some sort of insult.  Vilifying is very easy from behind a keyboard now isnt it?

[CAVY]

Originally posted by schizer
You truely are a moron....In case you want some history on the term, it was coined by the late 2pac and in an interview he described thug life as

"The Hate You Gave Little Infants f**ks Everybody, meaning, what you feed us as seeds, grows, and blows up in your face, thats Thug Life."


that was the exact quote from Pac himself.


It is the African American community themselves who have popularized the term and twisted 2Pacs definition of the word he coined. The term is not descriptive of a race it is descriptive of a lifestyle.  Thug Life has evolved into money, hoes, the bling bling cars, guns, you know general "gangsta" crap.  Call me racist if you want, hell throw all the labels around you want, you seem to be a master at that, almost everyone of your threads has to have some sort of insult.  Vilifying is very easy from behind a keyboard now isnt it?

That same THUG LIFE unfortunately lead to his death

[Airhead]

Originally posted by schizer
You truely are a moron....In case you want some history on the term, it was coined by the late 2pac and in an interview he described thug life as

"The Hate You Gave Little Infants f**ks Everybody, meaning, what you feed us as seeds, grows, and blows up in your face, thats Thug Life."


that was the exact quote from Pac himself.


It is the African American community themselves who have popularized the term and twisted 2Pacs definition of the word he coined. The term is not descriptive of a race it is descriptive of a lifestyle.  Thug Life has evolved into money, hoes, the bling bling cars, guns, you know general "gangsta" crap.  Call me racist if you want, hell throw all the labels around you want, you seem to be a master at that, almost everyone of your threads has to have some sort of insult.  Vilifying is very easy from behind a keyboard now isnt it?

Thanks for proving my point- Thug Life is an African American term used to describe African American "gangsters." I already knew that, but thanks anyway- now we know you were aware of it also. You used the term to describe basketball players who got caught up in a brawl, as the first thing you took note of was the color of the players' skin.

Look, I'm not trying to be insulting, I'd really be more than happy to discuss this in a civil manner- so I'll ignore your "moron" comment and rephrase my "racist" remark to "I feel it's racist to use code words like Thug Life when refering to African American basketball players who get into brawls with fans. It is stated with the intention to note the ethneticity of the players."

And that's how I genuinely feel- all insults, all kidding, all BS aside.



"The context was inferred by you and only you..." -Neubob

You believe that, Neubob? You believe nobody read "thug life" and connected it to the ethneticity of the players? I think you're wrong- I think most here understood exactly what the phrase refered to...it's just that nobody here has the cohones to say it.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Airhead
Thanks for proving my point- Thug Life is an African American term used to describe African American "gangsters." I already knew that, but thanks anyway- now we know you were aware of it also. You used the term to describe basketball players who got caught up in a brawl, as the first thing you took note of was the color of the players' skin.

But how is it racist if you are refferring to African....Blacks that are acting like blacks.  Now if I just saw some guys hanging out on a court or something not doing anything wrong but just hanging out with their buddies and I made the comment "thug life" THAT would be a racist comment.

If you call a white guy from georgia who has a pickup truck with a gun rack and a mural with the confederate flag on the hood a redneck there would be nothing racist about it because he is in fact a redneck.  Now if you talk to him and he's missing teeth and the man cannot even literate complete sentences you could go so far as to say he is a "dumb redneck" because it is true.

Now if you just saw a white guy in a regular truck comin home from work and listening to some country music and called him a dumb redneck THAT would be a racist comment.

I'm not trying to be insulting but for you to lable somone a racist because they speak the truth tells me you suffer from "guilty white guy syndrome" (at least I think you are white....can't remember though) To me you are standing up for a bunch of black guys when there isn't a need for it.

[Airhead]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
I'm not trying to be insulting but for you to lable somone a racist because they speak the truth tells me you suffer from "guilty white guy syndrome" (at least I think you are white....can't remember though) To me you are standing up for a bunch of black guys when there isn't a need for it.

What is "the truth," Gunslinger? Is it that codewords like "thug life" and "bling bling gangsta rapper wannabees" are Board politespeak for the N-word- or that no inference of race was intended by those who use the term when refering to African American atheletes who act badly?

[Saurdaukar]

Airhead... did you even read what he wrote?

[Sixpence]

Well, it is true when you are black everything you do is magnified. When Sprewell choked his coach, there was outrage, when Kevin Greene choked his coach, there was barely a whisper.

Does anyone remember the fiasco in New York when the Bruins went into the stands and attacked the crowd? The image of Mike Milbury taking off one fans shoe and beating him with it is classic. Shoot, one game against minnesota, the puck hadn't even been dropped to start the game and all hell broke loose. There was 281 minutes in penalties and they barely had enough players to play the game. We were all talking about it in school as it was the greatest game we ever saw.

But a brawl breaks out at a basketball game and it's typical of their race, too funny.

[Saurdaukar]

Originally posted by Sixpence
But a brawl breaks out at a basketball game and it's typical of their race, too funny. [/B]

Another one!

BOTH of you listen good:  You are the ONLY two mentioning race in this thread!

Unreal.

[Airhead]

Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Airhead... did you even read what he wrote?

Yeah Mazz... he said "thug life." I commented that's a code word for African Americans. Really, there's not much more to it than that.

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Another one!

BOTH of you listen good:  You are the ONLY two mentioning race in this thread!

Unreal.

"You mean do a bunch of amature gangstas push, shove, and swing at eachother and fans like girls?

No.

Hockey players beat the **** out of people without even bothering to run their mouth.

Basketball players are *******.

I listen very well

[Saurdaukar]

You two are making assumptions.

As of this post, the only two people discussing race are your duo.

"Thug" does not mean "black."
"Gangsta" does not mean "black."

Its a "lifestyle choice."  

Bertuzzi was a "thug" too.

If we wanted to be bigots, we'd simply throw around the terms youre using.

[schizer]

Originally posted by Airhead
Yeah Mazz... he said "thug life." I commented that's a code word for African Americans. Really, there's not much more to it than that.

Thug Life is not code word for "nig..er", like I said earlier it has nothing to do with race.  Is calling someone a hee-haw racist?  Hee-haw was/is slang for cowboys/country western folk.....ever seen the show called "Hee-Haw" that was a country western music showcase.  Is calling someone a "ricer" racist?  Well it might be I guess if 100% of the people that drive supped up subcompacts are Asian.  Is calling someone "simmer" or a person that likes to play online simualtions racist?   I could go on all day with words that overtime have been used to describe a culture or a population and in no way are "racist".  Thats the problem with politically correct individuals such as yourself, you are so quick to label and not even give an ounce of thought to the true meaning.

[schizer]

Here, let me simplify it even more.

RACISM is defined as

rac·ism  

   1. The belief that RACE  accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
   2. Discrimination or prejudice based on
RACE .


race

1. A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
2.  A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.


So where within those definitions of the word you so clearly like to throw around does a  term that is used to describe a LIFESTYLE CHOICE such as "thug life" fall?  You are the racist, by so quiclkly attributing the phrase "Thug Life" to blacks.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Airhead
Yeah Mazz... he said "thug life." I commented that's a code word for African Americans. Really, there's not much more to it than that.

The truth is if it were a bunch of white guys acting like "bling bling gangsta wannabe thug life" I wouldn't see it any different.  So YES they were acting like what was commented on and I don't see anything bad about that.  You are reading into things and making up stuff "in between the lines" that doesn't exist.

Airhead it's like you are saying we can't talk at all about anthing dealing with black people or we are racist.  The only one that is relating this to the black race as a whole is you!  It's not an off the wall racist comment to say that these guys are acting like "gangsta rappers" because they ARE!  No one is substituting anything in here for racial slurs we are calling it like we see it.  It's called "common sense guilt free observation"

[tikky]

Just face it (in "technicolor" perspective), most "hidden" worfds, sentences, and connotatuiions have raccist substance in uit.