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« Reply #60 on: November 21, 2004, 03:09:07 PM »
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Just face it (in "technicolor" perspective), most "hidden" worfds, sentences, and connotatuiions have raccist substance in uit.


You're not gonna criticise GW Bush for screwing up the english language are you?

Racism is in the mind of the racist, not in his words.
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« Reply #61 on: November 21, 2004, 04:07:45 PM »
I've never really understood why people get so worked up over words or terms anyway.  Then again, I suppose I'm not really in a position to understand.
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« Reply #62 on: November 21, 2004, 04:49:34 PM »
Most of you have no idea what the hell you are talking about...

So I will let you speak on how black people act and how we live our lives and what we are all about. Since the majority of you seem to believe that all of us act the same way as SOME of these athletes and rappers then you are obviously an expert on the black culture.

Stupid asses.

This is the dumbest **** I have EVER read on this board and a true view of how most of you seem to think.

But how is it racist if you are refferring to African....Blacks that are acting like blacks.

Please gunslinger explain more.

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« Reply #63 on: November 21, 2004, 05:44:21 PM »
Jamusta, what did you see in any of my posts that offended you? Namely this one, which, for the record, was posted prior to getting drunk.

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Basketball, moreso than any other popular professional sport(including hockey), is a product of modern pop culture, I believe. That's why you get more basketball players moonlighting as musicians than you do football or baseball players. It has nothing to do with their color, rather, their fan base.  Calling him racist for using that term is akin to calling a person racist for refering to Britney Spears as trailor trash because of the clothing she wears.
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The fact that you immediately see the need to step in and toss around accusations on behalf of a highly varied, proud group of people--a people who are anything BUT represented by this select group of riff-raff--says more about your own stereotypes and yes, veiled preconceptions of Afro-Americans than it does about the guy who uses a Tupac quote to laugh at a bunch of guys that totally fit the mold.  

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« Reply #64 on: November 21, 2004, 05:52:13 PM »
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But how is it racist if you are refferring to African....Blacks that are acting like blacks.

Please gunslinger explain more.


Fair enough.

Simple answer....these black basket ball players are emulating Black Rap Culture.

Now for the record.  I do not think all or even most black people act like this....nore do I think that all of basket ball is like this.

Fact:  Hip/hop Rap culture emulates violence and a lifstyle of money and doing what you want when you want because you are the baddest on the block

Fact:  It is the opinion of some on this board that these basketball players are acting this out in real life (the part about the violence)

Now you throw the word black in there or because most involved on the team happend to be black and all the sudden you're a racist?

What's amazing is that this "way of life" is not good for ANY race.  Anyone who speaks out against it is instantly shunned.  If you are a black guy (see: Bill Cosby) you are betraying your own.  IF you are a white guy your now a racist.  

again before I'm branded (actually I could care less) I don't think it is like this as a whole.  This goes right along with "PC" and "guilty white man syndrom".

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« Reply #65 on: November 21, 2004, 05:57:33 PM »
Just because they're the only two mentioning it doesnt mean they're wrong.

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« Reply #66 on: November 21, 2004, 06:03:31 PM »
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Yeah Mazz... he said "thug life." I commented that's a code word for African Americans. Really, there's not much more to it than that.


Isn't that in of itself racist.....can't white people be "thugs" or live "thug life" as well?  Last time I checked violence doesn't have a color.

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« Reply #67 on: November 21, 2004, 06:16:23 PM »
LMFAO....nice slave owner Lego kit...wow.....lOLOLOLOLO



btw ..Thug Life..is anyone who lives the gangnsta rap lifestyle..OH!!!

BTW ..you dotn have to listen to rap to be thug life...its just s term to describe people who DONT GIVE A F about you...all they care about is themselves..there money..ho's (not jousts).hehe and of course the diamonds and gold..bling bling you whorz; )

btw ..I do love how fat crackers coem down to the floor...and get punched in face by Oneail and Artets...LMFAO..great clips...


and...I wish i was them...they gonna be REEAAACH   BEACHHHH..(Chappele show)



I can already see the testimony during the trial.....of the 2 fat crackers in Pistons shirts who cam edown to floor..

" We were just coeming down to the floor to get autographs!"..."And Artest punched my face!..sniff sniffle"


Can someone post a snapshot of artest rigth before he lays a double on crakers face?...LOLOLO...fat boy coems down..and shakes his left hand liek he about to unload on Artets...but then he freezes....and Artest lets loose...LOLOLOLOO..That has go to be the best part,,,,,,,,


PS...poor cracker who Artest smaqs first..WHO didnt throw the cup at him..HES GONA BE RICH!!...His face expression needs to be posted too...HEs laffing at Artets..then sees him  coming for hoim..an dstarts squeealln..LOLOLOOL


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« Reply #68 on: November 21, 2004, 06:37:52 PM »
Some pretty hefty penalties handed down by the NBA.

Artest is out for the season, O'neil gets 20 games, Wallace gets 5, ...

Good for Stern.
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« Reply #69 on: November 21, 2004, 07:00:58 PM »
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Some pretty hefty penalties handed down by the NBA.

Artest is out for the season, O'neil gets 20 games, Wallace gets 5, ...

Good for Stern.


Hahah funny thing about Artest is a few weeks ago he said he wanted "time off" to persue his rap career.  I guess the idiot now gets the whole season.

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« Reply #70 on: November 21, 2004, 07:32:41 PM »
Better info:

Artest was suspended for the rest of the season,

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Indiana's Stephen Jackson was suspended for 30 games and Jermaine O'Neal for 25. Detroit's Ben Wallace — whose shove of Artest after a foul led to the 5-minute fracas — drew a six-game ban, while Pacers guard Anthony Johnson got five games.
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« Reply #71 on: November 21, 2004, 07:49:06 PM »
Neubob i didnt mention anyone elses name but gunslinger..

Fair enough gunslinger but next time try saying...
these black basket ball players are emulating Black Rap Culture.
Instead of blacks acting like blacks. But if you want to really look at whats going on most of the fans involved in the fighting and throwing stuff are white. Most didnt have anything to do with the begining. Artest ran right past the guy with the white hat and blue shirt so why is he grabbing him from behind? To break up the fight? Then why did he start punching him in the back of the head for no reason? Seems to me black bling bling gangsta wannabe rappers bball players are not the only violent people.

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« Reply #72 on: November 21, 2004, 08:05:36 PM »
Explain "guilty white guy syndrome" to me.

What exactly is that? I'm serious.

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« Reply #73 on: November 21, 2004, 08:29:47 PM »
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Explain "guilty white guy syndrome" to me.

What exactly is that? I'm serious.


White guilt is simply this:  

It is white peple who genuinly are not racist people but they feel guilty for past treatment of minoritys in this country and feel a need to make up for that even when it is un asked for and sometimes unwanted.  

It's white people vilifying other white peoples actions even when it defies common sense to do so.  

I think this is a conservative writer but I'm not sure, either way he describes some good examples.


http://www.townhall.com/columnists/walterwilliams/ww20030604.shtml

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Guilt is one of the worse human motivations. It promotes self-serving actions, while ignoring or discounting the effects of those actions on the object of the guilt. I recall my first year as an assistant professor of economics at Temple University in 1973. Black students had demanded that a course in "black economics" be taught. What's worse is that some of my colleagues were giving the demand serious thought.

Not being able to convince me that there was such a thing as black economics, I asked several of my colleagues what would be their response had some Polish or Italian students demanded a course in Polish or Italian economics? I answered the question for them by telling them they'd probably kick the rascals out of their offices.

That was just the tip of the guilt iceberg. One Temple University colleague took me to lunch and confided to me that he was having numerous academic problems with his poorly prepared black students.

I asked him what his response to their poor preparation was. He replied that he tried to take into consideration racial discrimination and the poor education they received. I asked him how he assigned grades, to which he responded: If they come every day and look as if they're taking notes, I give them a "C".

After I recovered, I told him that's very much like having a dog in an English class and one day the dog sits on his hind legs and says, "You not po da do dat." You'd give the dog an "A". Why? You don't expect the dog to speak at all, and no matter what he says you'd deem it laudable.
 

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« Reply #74 on: November 21, 2004, 10:24:29 PM »
NEWSFLASH!

Artest is out of the season:)

The one that started it (Wallace) only got 6:mad: