conspiracy theory on history channel..

[NUKE]

I have shot lots objects..... pumpkins, watermellons, onions, car parts, bottles, cans etc.

They never go flying backwards away from the direction of the shot. ( well, maybe a can will if you just nick it it the right spot)

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by WhiteHawk
Oswald may very well have shot the majic bullet

I still don't understand why this bullet is considered "magic"  It did exactly what a bullet should do.

[WhiteHawk]

Yep, sure as sht.  I ran over to my fathers, grabbed his british 303/  Placed a volley ball on a tree stump, shot it, and it at 100 feet and it blew off the stump, one bounce and hit me right in the nose.  I'll be dammed.  Thank god.  Man, all this time i was worried about assssins and conspiracys and what not.  Whew.
  Wow, life sure is alot simpler now.  Simple world for simple people. Thnx guys and

[Steve]

Watch the film closer.. Kennedy's head is pushed forward  then recoils back, like anyone's neck would do.. almost like whiplash.

Whitehawk.. aww never mind.. you're too much of a whacko to actually have a discussion with.



Kerry lost.


Take it!

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by WhiteHawk
Yep, sure as sht.  I ran over to my fathers, grabbed his british 303/  Placed a volley ball on a tree stump, shot it, and it at 100 feet and it blew off the stump, one bounce and hit me right in the nose.  I'll be dammed.  Thank god.  Man, all this time i was worried about assssins and conspiracys and what not.  Whew.
  Wow, life sure is alot simpler now.  Simple world for simple people. Thnx guys and

You seem to fail to grasp fundemental physics. The head is attached to the body, via the neck, bones and a whole lot of muscle, plus the nervous system hold it all together. Expecting the result to be simplified reaction is something I'd expect a "consipiracy theorist" to go for.

[Shuckins]

Whitehawk,

Oswald only had to work the bolt twice.  When Kennedy's limo first appeared, he already had a round chambered.  Set the clock to zero...bam, first shot...work the bolt...bam...second shot 3 to 4 seconds later...work the bolt...bam...the third shot also approximately 3 to four seconds later.

[kbman]

Typical gunshot wound: entry wound small and fairly clean. Exit wound generally rather large and messy. Which direction his head "appeared" to jerk is immaterial.

kbman

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Shuckins
Whitehawk,

Oswald only had to work the bolt twice.  When Kennedy's limo first appeared, he already had a round chambered.  Set the clock to zero...bam, first shot...work the bolt...bam...second shot 3 to 4 seconds later...work the bolt...bam...the third shot also approximately 3 to four seconds later.

most people don't realize that in this kind of situation 6.5 seconds is in fact a life time.

[Vulcan]

Add to the formula the limo driver accelerating...

[GRUNHERZ]

Doesnt it really say it all when these conspiracy kooks think its more likely that Kennedy was shot from a street surface level sewer cover grate, and all that firing position implies, than from behind in an easy shooting position above...

[Shuckins]

Vulcan,

The limo driver did not begin accelerating until after the President was hit.  Jackie had time to crawl back across the trunk and get a security guard to climb onto the limo...and pick up a piece of the President's brain.

[Shuckins]

Oh, by the way, the 6.5 carcano is a very low recoil round.  It is possible with a 4 x scope to fire 3 shots at a moving target and never lose the sight picture.

I regularly hunt with a 6.5x55mm Swedish mauser cartridge, a round that is very similar to the 6.5 carcano.  It actually has slightly greater recoil than the carcano...but it is still a very manageable cartridge and easy to keep on target after a shot.

By no stretch of the imagination was Oswald undergunned.

[Traveler]

Originally posted by Shuckins
Vulcan,

The limo driver did not begin accelerating until after the President was hit.  Jackie had time to crawl back across the trunk and get a security guard to climb onto the limo...and pick up a piece of the President's brain.

That's is a fact Vulcan, She recovered either a large part of his Skull bone or part of his brain (or both) from the left rear part of the trunk of the limo and is captured in the film.  

If the Kill shot came from the back (Oswald shooting down and from behind) why was anything on the trunk of the car, shouldn't it have been blown into the front of the car or out of the car to his right front, if the shot came from behind, striking the Occipital bone (back of the head) and exited from the right prattle bone(just in front of JFK's right ear, as the Warren Report states)?  

That one segment of the film makes me believe that the fatal  head shot came from his right front and exited the back of his skull, blowing the Occipital bone out and away from the back of his skull leaving bone and brain matter on the left read of the limo.

On November 22, Doctors at Parkland Hospital reported treating JFK for a massive exit wound to the  Occipital area of his skull, That’s the back of his head.  By the way, none of the doctors that acutally treated JFK that day appeared in front of the Warren Commission, their bosses did.

[Hortlund]

I've said this before in another thread on the same subject, but I can say it again.

Ive been in the army one way or another since I was 15, and I have used bolt-action rifles alot both in the military and as a civilian. And if you can find me a guy who puts three rounds in a 1/2 moving target at 100+ meters under seven seconds with a bolt-action rifle and scope, I will be very impressed. Personally I dont think anyone can do that. Marine or not. Most people would be hard pressed to hit a stationary elephant at 100 meters under those conditions.

And btw, the "Oswald was a Marine and OMG the Marines are so good"-argument is just plain silly.

[lazs2]

hortlund... he didn't put three rounds into a moving target in 7 seconds... he put on round into a slowly moving away from him target and then fired 2 more shots in 7 seconds one of which actually hit the target.

2 shots in 7 seconds..  one decent and one lousy.  you saying you couldn't take 2 shots in 7 seconds with a bolt action scoped rifle and hit a target that was slowly moving away from you at less than 100 yards.... hit that man sized target.... once out of two times?

Wh... shoot pumkins all day.. they don't have muscles and are just sitting there but, even then... a lot of em will explode and then fall forward off the table...  tilt the table forward just slightly and they will allmost all fall forward.

you want to believe that some loony couldn't just walk on up to a good sniper position and kill one of the kennedies...  I don't think there ever was a decent kennedy but that is beside the point... What the warren commision says happened is probly about exactly like it happened.   nothing about it is impossible and nothing else has any tangible proof whatsoever.