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Offline Urchin

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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2004, 11:18:17 AM »
See the problem is Batfink... you are still thinking that this is some kind of air combat game.  Shame on you.  

When the vast majority of the people who play the game decide that air combat is to hard, so they have to find something easier.. you don't have an air combat game any more.  

When they are proud of the fact that they suck to badly to fight, you have "Aces High"... kind of an ironic name.

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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2004, 11:41:40 AM »
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See the problem is Batfink... you are still thinking that this is some kind of air combat game.  Shame on you.  

When the vast majority of the people who play the game decide that air combat is to hard, so they have to find something easier.. you don't have an air combat game any more.  

When they are proud of the fact that they suck to badly to fight, you have "Aces High"... kind of an ironic name.


E'GAD! and there i was thinking the idea was dogfighting.

i feel so stupid.

time to swap my spitV/Jug40 for some Lancs and go suicide dive bombing anything that even resembles the ingredients of fun.

HEY! that SOB Farmer down their is hunting duck!  the Bastage!!!
thats it, im going to bomb hell out of his small plot of land and then my fellow country men can sleep peacefully at night and no longer have to up the most uber, cannon loaded ride and HO/run/HO/run/HO/run/auger!

i feel so satisfied.
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« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2004, 12:24:52 PM »
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typical non-skilled dweeb answer.

wtg on proving me right.

i look forward to chasing your LA7 through your ack and vulching your lame arse as you try and land.

I SAY AGAIN!

I can in no way stop you bombing the fleet, and therefore cannot stop you enjoying your money. You CAN find something else to bomb and leave me my fight. If you sink my furball then effectively you ARE stopping me spending my money how i choose.


then quit and save money.

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« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2004, 12:34:37 PM »
No, i'm still having fun despite many peoples best HO's.....er....efforts.
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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2004, 12:35:59 PM »
I see this complaint a lot and in some ways I agree with Mechanic. Sometimes it's hard to find a good even fight. Some of the most fun I've had were CV fights.

The problem is human nature. You can ask folks nicely all day long to either do or not do something and the likelyhood of a positive response is about 5%. Especially in AH where everyone is going to fall back on the "it's my money" line.

I've seen some good suggestion in here that would make the strat in the MA more interesting but a lot of folks would complain about them because they would restrict the plane set some how. One I really liked was to have factories be the source of certain planes and when they are destroyed that plane is unavailable.

As far as suiciding the CV's, I've only been here a month and I've seen this a too. Suicide bombing, head on collisions. There should be some form of penalty for a suicide attacks. Not sure what it should be but something that would discourage this.

One suggestion I saw in the BB was to increase the lethality of the AI flak. Possibly make it so that it's more lethal if a bomber formation is coming in low. This would not only make it harder to suicide but it would encourage higher alt level bombing. Maybe perk point for bringing home the formation.

JMO.

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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2004, 12:41:05 PM »
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Waaaah!   Somebody stopped my Quake session!  And I was almost to the next level!  Stop the bad mens, mommy!


hmm, that ones worn out...time for a new figure of speach...

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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2004, 12:47:54 PM »
lmao, you wanna talk about Quakers, I think they are more personified by the rinse and repeat suicide horde lamers.  Die 100 time just to blow up a silly building then get wtg's on ch2 for their "skill."  Who the F are you guys kidding?

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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2004, 12:51:28 PM »
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lmao, you wanna talk about Quakers, I think they are more personified by the rinse and repeat suicide horde lamers.  Die 100 time just to blow up a silly building then get wtg's on ch2 for their "skill."  Who the F are you guys kidding?


that requires the patience of a grandmaster chess player, quake requires fighter pilot reaction times and the attention span of a gnat of crack...

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« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2004, 12:56:13 PM »
lol, that is so wrong I can't even beging to describe.  Perhaps you just said that to try to get a rise outta me.  Regardless, keeping SA in a horde of la7's and making it out alive in a slower plane is probably the hardest thing to do in the game.  Short attention span?  How bout blowing 20k of alt to smash into a FH you don't even kill and waste 15 mins of your life.

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« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2004, 01:10:15 PM »
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I can in no way stop you bombing the fleet, and therefore cannot stop you enjoying your money. You CAN find something else to bomb and leave me my fight. If you sink my furball then effectively you ARE stopping me spending my money how i choose.


Time to play devils advocate. :aok

You don't seem to understand the fun game mechanics behind a furball. Furballs are awesome, fun fights. I love them. So do alot of people. Lots of other people see the furball 'dar, up, and join it, or make war against the enemy cv/base. *gasp* somebody porked the hangars! Well, open your map, it's not hard to find a new furball. Just look for the big, red lines, and fly to it. Furballs build their own momentum with just some simply colored bars popping up.

Getting to play the game, the way you want to play it all the time, for your money, is a complete & utterly false myth. In a persistent environment game, there are hundreds of variables that determine what you are going to be able to do, and alot more that determine your success at it. Add in dozens, or hundreds, or thousands, of different players, with different styles, and different mentalities.. add in a helping of Murphy's Law.. and you've got a game that, while insanely fun, doesn't always let things go down like you want them to.

In summary: People suck, but you can't let it get you down. Multiple fronts, multiple maps for a reason. Not hard to find a new fight. Moths to a flame. If you furball, they will come.

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« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2004, 01:21:21 PM »
QUAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to this thread

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« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2004, 01:23:47 PM »
Type engrish you polock. :D

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« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2004, 01:24:05 PM »
The Whines have been recorded
Death is no easy answer
For those who wish to know
Ask those who have been before you
What fate the future holds
It ain't pretty

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« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2004, 01:26:05 PM »
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Time to play devils advocate. :aok

You don't seem to understand the fun game mechanics behind a furball. Furballs are awesome, fun fights. I love them. So do alot of people. Lots of other people see the furball 'dar, up, and join it, or make war against the enemy cv/base. *gasp* somebody porked the hangars! Well, open your map, it's not hard to find a new furball. Just look for the big, red lines, and fly to it. Furballs build their own momentum with just some simply colored bars popping up.

Getting to play the game, the way you want to play it all the time, for your money, is a complete & utterly false myth. In a persistent environment game, there are hundreds of variables that determine what you are going to be able to do, and alot more that determine your success at it. Add in dozens, or hundreds, or thousands, of different players, with different styles, and different mentalities.. add in a helping of Murphy's Law.. and you've got a game that, while insanely fun, doesn't always let things go down like you want them to.

In summary: People suck, but you can't let it get you down. Multiple fronts, multiple maps for a reason. Not hard to find a new fight. Moths to a flame. If you furball, they will come.


good post, good points. yet irrelavent to my situation this morning.

there was 60 players total online. finding a fight was impossible. then out of the darkness a shinning light of pleasure burned brightly down at A55. #A CV was off shore and many cons were coming in. Myself and a squaddie upped and battle for 15 mins or so with 5 or 6 hogs and cats. it was great. then some punk on CH2 said,

PUNK: 'OH, a CV off 55, im'a gunna sink it!'
Batfink: 'Hey, please dont, we're having a great fight here.'
PUNK: i dont care, dont tell me how to spend my money'
Batfink: please, i am really asking you politly not to sink it, what fun can you glean from this behaviour.'
PUNK2: 'He's trying to tell you how to spend your money!! im gunna sink it too damnit!'
Batfink: what? no way, hold on im not trying to tell anyone what to do, merely requesting you dont sink it.'
PUNK3: hey, screw you man, its a game and im gunna sink it also'
PUNK:Yeah! go find another furball ya quake head'

*Batfink looks at map, only darbar in sight is some land grabbers from each country flying aournd in groups of 10 stealing undefended bases*

Batfink: Come on guys, theres nothing going anywhere now, and i got work in an hour. PLEASE'
PUNK4: Furballing is pathetic, this game is about strategic planning and winning the war dude'
Batfink: 'eh....?'
PUNK2: HAHA i got it on fire, few more suicide runs and its ded guys'

*Batfink becomes abusive to all punks*

PUNKS:'you're rude man, how dare you BLAH BLAH i dont pay my money to hear BLAH BLAH my kid is watching me play YADDA YADDA you go find another fight'
Batfink: '**** you all, what a bunch of bananas you are.'
PUNKS: thats it, im filming this, you gunna be banned moron.

*and on and on and on this goes.*

gives up, goes to shop and starts smoking 3 ciggarettes at once.

posts this and goes to work.

now that is mindless fun nazi watermelon if i ever saw it.
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« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2004, 01:26:58 PM »
You sure want alot.  Its hard to even convince friendlies to stop porking the field when its 30 seconds away from being captured let alone convincing a tool shed killer not to piss on the parade of people who just wish to furball in peace.