Author Topic: Armor vs. Aircraft (Read 745 times)

save · « **Reply #15 on:** November 30, 2004, 02:21:14 AM »

you dont kill mbt tanks (ie 1943-45) with 20mm or .50s

period.

you can deny them their fuel and support and maintainance , but you dont kill tanks with them.

The only worthy contender in the tankbusting business is the ju87g
with its 30mm gun and tungsten core.

Typhoon rockets may have killed a few tanks but they where extremely hard to hit with.

bozon · « **Reply #16 on:** November 30, 2004, 03:32:18 AM »

I find it very hard to belive hispanos or 0.5s "killing" tanks.

They might cause considrable amount of external damage to the tank (supplies attached, machine guns, periscopes, radiator, maybe loosing a track) but notting beyond repair or kill anyone inside. That is unless someone is stupid enough to man the turret machinegun while being strifed, like in the game...

Bozon

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 30, 2004, 04:26:26 AM »

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someone is stupid enough to man the turret machinegun while being strifed, like in the game...

oh well what about the ostie it's like a closed turret

ra · « **Reply #18 on:** November 30, 2004, 07:20:42 AM »

Most ground vehicles were not main battle tanks. They were mobile artillery, armored cars, half tracks, trucks, and lighter tank destroyers. So when fighter bomber pilots reported destroying "tanks" they were probably destroying everything but main battle tanks. No way strafing is going to destroy a large tank.

Somewhere on the web I saw documents where the British tested strafing tanks with 20mm in 1940, when they were worried about a German invasion and thought they may be able to use their 20mm armed fighters as tank busters. They concluded that even a medium tank was more or less immune to 20mm rounds. They decided that cluster bombs where best, or 250-500 lb bombs. 1000 lbrs weren't much better than 500lbrs.

ra

Slash27 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 30, 2004, 07:54:43 AM »

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The only worthy contender in the tankbusting business is the ju87g

Why would you leave out the ILs and the Hurri IID?

Masherbrum · « **Reply #20 on:** November 30, 2004, 08:11:19 AM »

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Originally posted by vorticon
it pains me to have to do this, as it is myself i am ridiculing...

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50012&highlight=american+planes+over+europe

3rd post down...

I WIN

Win what?

I have still YET to see a Legitimate SOURCE of an ACTUAL WWII account proving this BS of "FLIPPING A GERMAN TANK WITH 50 CAL". Your banter doesn't explain anything in your post. Sorry.

Karaya

hyena426 · « **Reply #21 on:** November 30, 2004, 01:47:43 PM »

mashburn you and vort are talking about somthing else i think,,,lol,and about the flipping of a tank,,like i said above

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im not sure how true this story is,,but thats what i read once,,lol

i did read it,,but what you read doesnt mean its true,,just figured some one else mite have some light to shed on this story,,lol like i was saying,,i didnt really beleved it my self,,,lol

midnight Target · « **Reply #22 on:** November 30, 2004, 04:16:26 PM »

Well I guess no one watched Saving Private Ryan and the stellar performance of the "P-51 Tankbusters".

For shame!