Originally posted by dedalos
Wotan,
I don't see how what I fly makes your BS claims valid. They are still BS. Yes your plane will get you killed everytime if you do a spiral in furbal or if you start the spiral withing d600 or 800 from the bad guy. (remember all this is when equal states). For you to claim that not only you will not die but you will win most of those situations shows how mach you know about the game.
Howitzer is missing the feel for the move because he really does get it. If you read his post he is telling you the same thing I am. The spit will close in on you and get a shot if at 1K. At D600 you will be another stat.
The spiral is very valid and it works. Just don;t tell people to start it when at close range, at equal e states, and with a plane that does not outclime or outturn the bad guy. Its just stupid to even argue that.
As far as the lala goes, if you looked more carefully you would see that I fly a different plane in every tour. In this is 110 and LA7. Last one was 110, typh,Spit,p38. The one before was spit, g2, la7. I fly everything. In any case, what I or anyone else flies, does not make what you said valid.
If you want to call BS, call it on your self. But, thats expected from an expert that does not even play the game.
None of that has anything to do with the question Howitzer asked:
You are in a G10 and are being pursued by a spit (lets just say its either a 5 or a 9 because in the game you won't know which) you both are at the same alt, lets say 5k, and your speeds from what you can tell are pretty equal at 275. So if you are in the 109 and you want to try a spiral climb like wotan suggests at what point do you start the manuever in terms of how close the spit gets to you? Seems to me if you were to start when he is at d1000+, while you are in your turn he'd be able to close the distance and get a decent snap shot at you. But then again if he gets anywhere near d600, most of these guys will start blasting away at anything in the air, and you can't really rule out a lucky shot.
Seems I am just missing the "feel" for this maneuver... anyone have any thoughts on this one?
So his premise is :
You are in a G-10 and co - energy with a spit d-700 / d-600 back.
A G-10 can out accelerate (so can the G-6) and easily out climb a spit (not so easy for the G-6).
As the G-10 goes up into a climbing turn the spit will close a bit until he tries to follow. He will only get a shot by pulling lead. The G-10 or G-6 for that matter can find a sweet spot where he can hold a given climb angle and speed. The higher the angle and the tighter the turn the more the spit has to pull to get his site on target and as such the more 'ground he loses' on the G-10. If the G-10 gets in trouble or makes an error all the G-10 needs to do is level out or go nose down and accelerate away.
So no the G-10 is 'not dead' and since I do this very thing in a G-6 and don't 'end up dead' clearly you are mistaken. I no longer have my Ah films on my website. Its been some time since I played Ah regularly. I came back for the AH2 betas as Helvik and flew the 1st AH2 tour. This worked for me in AH1 and was even easier in AH2 since the icons moved below the aircraft.
I don't play the game because I don't like main game play. Until ToD arrives I only 'fly' in FB/PF. The same move I describe in this thread I use there. My guys are getting together on Wed (tomorrow) and if you have that game you can join us and see for yourself. In FB/PF I only fly the G-14. Slower then a G-10 and faster on wep (MW-50) then a standard G-6. We fight everything from spits to p51s.
My reply to your definitive claim that 'I just died' is 'nonsense'.
I don't care what plane you fly or how you fly it or what your k/d is. My only interest in looking at what planes you fly was to get an idea of your pov. I simply looked at what plane you got the most kills in. Usually its a reasonable indicator of what plane you fly the most. If you say you fly everything, well then ok...
You can get 1000 kills and no deaths or die every time it has bearing at all. The only reason I posted my G-6 score was as a counter to your claim. I am sure there are 1000 people in this game that are far better then me.
However, if you think I am some 20k cherry picking bore and zzz dweeb then oh well, I can only suggest asking those who have flown with me.
But what ever makes you feel better.
As I stated above I fly the very way I outlined to Howitzer and as such 'don't
tell me what's what'.
You have your opinion, but it certainly isn't a fact.
