Author Topic: Fw-190F will be useless until... (Read 650 times)

1K3 · « **on:** November 28, 2004, 12:02:10 AM »

...we get 12x panzerblitz 2 rockets for Fw-190F-8 in 2.16, 3.07 and 5.12 in (55, 78 and 130 mm) calibers.

can we have those?

Kweassa · « **Reply #1 on:** November 28, 2004, 01:59:51 AM »

Which.. makes me curious.

Is there any real difference in penetration values done to armour between the Soviet RS-182 and the US HVARs in AH2? Or is it merely difference in warhead size? Or was the real thing also 'merely a difference in warhead size'?

Flyboy · « **Reply #2 on:** November 28, 2004, 03:50:47 AM »

i have to agree the 190F8 is pretty useless.

Crumpp · « **Reply #3 on:** November 28, 2004, 09:34:52 AM »

I would like to see the AB bombs added, with the SD-4 HEAT bomblets as an option. The PB rockets are much better but only saw limited use in the late war stages. The AB series was the mainstay of the FW-190F's anti armour capabilities.

For a quick explaination of Luftwaffe Fragmentation bomb types:

It is not broken down by varient but is still a nice chart showing all the FW-190 attack series weapons:

No doubt the rockets should be included especially for late war scenarios.

Crumpp

Badboy · « **Reply #4 on:** November 28, 2004, 12:37:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Crumpp

It is not broken down by varient but is still a nice chart showing all the FW-190 attack series weapons:
Crumpp

Hi Crumpp,

Can you post the book references for those diagrams please?

Badboy

Widewing · « **Reply #5 on:** November 28, 2004, 01:42:27 PM »

Yeah, the 190F is sadly lacking in ordnance options. It is no more effective that the A-8. It was certainly a far more formidable Jabo than what we have in the game.

My regards,

Widewing

Crumpp · « **Reply #6 on:** November 28, 2004, 03:00:34 PM »

Badboy,

The top picture comes from Alfred Price's "FW-190 in Combat".

The bottom ones come from some documentation I found in the USAF Archives at Wright Patterson. I do not know which book they came from. The chart looks good and covers all the weapons but it's details are fuzzy. Not every FW-190 could carry those weapons.

Crumpp

Badboy · « **Reply #7 on:** November 28, 2004, 03:14:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Crumpp
Badboy,

The top picture comes from Alfred Price's "FW-190 in Combat".

The bottom ones come from some documentation I found in the USAF Archives at Wright Patterson. I do not know which book they came from. The chart looks good and covers all the weapons but it's details are fuzzy. Not every FW-190 could carry those weapons.

Crumpp

Thanks.

Badboy

1K3 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 28, 2004, 03:43:38 PM »

dang crumpp, nice pics!

on the 190F loadout, can nymbers 16 (twin MG 151 pack), 17 (MK 103 cannon pack), and 18 (MK 108) be jettisoned?

btw, did twin MG 151 pack in 190 seen alata usage... ie USAAF bombers? which version carried the twin packs and the MK 103?

Crumpp · « **Reply #9 on:** November 28, 2004, 03:55:53 PM »

Only 6 examples of the R1 (twin MG151 pods) were developed and their is no evidence they saw combat.

The others saw very limited use and the Mk 108 pods were dropped in favor of the internal wing mounted Mk 108's.

None of the Gondola cannons could be jettisoned.

Now the WGr 21 rocket tubes could be jettisioned if necessary.

The gun pods were never mounted on the 190F AFAIK, only on FW-190A's.

Be careful with Rustsatz's designations on this chart. Each varient had it's own Rustsatz's kits and the R#'s are different.

Crumpp